Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, evadgib said: Whether he can back it up is immaterial and won't stop a sizeable number of ordinary people (none of that 'Ficker than us' please!) thinking along the same lines. Interestingly, it was you who once again took the lead by inserting ‘Ficker than us’, not a claim I’ve ever resorted to but one on which you appear to be fixated. Taking recent developments into account I note while last week 43,000 remain voters went AWOL in one single constituency Remain supporters are planning a mass pro Remain rally in London. The last one over a million attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 51 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I was one of that 63% that didn't vote, and I'd like to leave. 63% my left K*acker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I was one of that 63% that didn't vote, and I'd like to leave. You were far from alone, not least as a result of the deliberate act of failing to dispatch expat ballots to addresses outside the EU for the referendum and the GE that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You can Back this up of course with evidence of Sterling plunging coincident with a Remain protest. Or shall we file this under: It’s always somebody else’s fault. Naaaaa....lets file it under "remoaner incompetence and undemocratic behaviour" shall we?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Despite the 52% v 48% result its still only 50-50 if we end up better off out than in having spent I suspect several billions trying to extricate to this sorry point and with a 50 billion bill on top it maybe time to revote in fact it is time to revote ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Define "mass"! The "mass" last time opted on a 52%/48% basis to leave - in a democracy (as the UK claims to be) the 52% would be the MAJORITY and the 48% would be the MINORITY. Am I getting anything wrong here? Certain other countries have coups or run re-/by-/repeat votes until the result is "satisfactory" - to this date I did not count the UK to such rouge states and would hope, that this will not change ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Estrada said: We are the 63% who did not vote to leave. The referendum was supposed to have been advisory and the law requires a majority of 55% of those who voted before the Government should action Brexit. In other words the referendum result was to Remain. Foreign influence, illegal campaign contributions by millionaires and lies such as the GBP350Million/week payable to the EU and immigration swayed the vote. Many ex-pats in Europe and overseas were not given a chance to vote. Most jurisdictions require a majority of 60% (EU55%) for such an action as Brexit which has already done severe damage to the UK economy. As for having a second referendum, if the Government can have three votes on it and consider a fourth, why should the public not have a second referendum based on the real facts and not the lies spread by Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage? This time let's follow the law on referendums and enforce the 55% majority rule, then Remain will win by a clear majority. Clearly we have "Leave" to "Remain". What a ridiculous argument!!! Do you really want to claim that all people not on the electoral roll should have a vote? does that include every random foetus? and shall we apply that to election results next time Labour crawl into power? By the way - maybe you would like to produce the SAME diagram with one of your little red circles round the "remain" vote - you would find it would be smaller!! The lengths that remainers will go to in order to try to overturn a democratic legal result are truly sad. But we all know where it comes from - just have a look at the fiddled Liebour vote in Peterborough last week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sydebolle said: Define "mass"! The "mass" last time opted on a 52%/48% basis to leave - in a democracy (as the UK claims to be) the 52% would be the MAJORITY and the 48% would be the MINORITY. Am I getting anything wrong here? Certain other countries have coups or run re-/by-/repeat votes until the result is "satisfactory" - to this date I did not count the UK to such rouge states and would hope, that this will not change ???? You seem to be labouring under the misunderstanding that British democracy is run by referenda and that public protest has no part in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, bizboi said: What a ridiculous argument!!! Do you really want to claim that all people not on the electoral roll should have a vote? does that include every random foetus? and shall we apply that to election results next time Labour crawl into power? By the way - maybe you would like to produce the SAME diagram with one of your little red circles round the "remain" vote - you would find it would be smaller!! The lengths that remainers will go to in order to try to overturn a democratic legal result are truly sad. But we all know where it comes from - just have a look at the fiddled Liebour vote in Peterborough last week!! I firmly believe that the revolution that is currently underway will lead to a number of changes including votes for life regardless of geographic location tied to our NI nos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, freedomnow said: Political deception got Leave over the line....with the NHS bus quotes, shady funding sources for Leave, Cambridge Analytica utilised, and social media manipulation that was not as deeply investigated as it was in USA...though in USA it never amounted to much. I think Remain would win 60/40 this time due to the sheer incompetence of what has happened since. The only way the UK can turn things around is deeper biz tax cuts to pull in new companies making UK as a base and keep City of London cemented in. EU cannot compete on that tax front due to the socialist macro/overall slant and tax needed to fund their super-projects (cash transfers to poorer blocks to upgrade their infrastructure)....though it could then devolve into tit-for-tat tariffs like Trump is doing. But yes, "Singapore of EU" would be the only way to lift the boat short-term based on market sentiment shoring up stocks etc...before it sinks to the bottom, along with the pound at "1 pound to 1 Baht" There was no deception, people are not that stupid. We just got tired of being ruled by an un elected bunch of liberal bureaucrats in Brussels. Having one government is bad enough, having another anti democratic one as well became intolerable. The EU was a good idea, it just has not worked so we wanted or country back. There will NOT be another vote and we WILL be leaving, something the moaning remainers need to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, evadgib said: I firmly believe that the revolution that is currently underway will lead to a number of changes including votes for life regardless of geographic location tied to our NI nos. I know dozens if not scores of people with NI numbers who are not citizens and not entitled to vote. Maybe go back to a land ownership requirement?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Instead of this insane and inane fight against the people's decision, it would behove the retainers to get behind Brexit and make it work as well as it can, instead of continuing to undermine it. The undermining will make the outcome much worse than if they got behind the people's will. And no you can't keep having referendums until you get the answer you personally want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, bizboi said: When will remoaners learn? 52 IS BIGGER than 48!!!!! Same moment Brexiteers understand no re opening negotiations as said multiple times by E.U. End station ! The tory elections are not gone change anything for that , fake promises full daydreaming .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Kinnock said: GBP will be 1:1 with USD soon and heading towards 1:1 with the Thai Baht by October. So what? If the silly arrogant Remainers had got behind the idea of leaving the pound would not be in the state it is in. Instead they sowed disunity and this uncertainty has resulted in damage to the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Denim said: If there were another referendum and remain won by a narrow margin how enthusiastic would they be to make it best of three ? I think you know the answer to that. There would be a lot of sophistry and heated rhetoric telling us that somehow the second referendum's narrow margin was decisive to Remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Estrada said: We are the 63% who did not vote to leave. The referendum was supposed to have been advisory and the law requires a majority of 55% of those who voted before the Government should action Brexit. In other words the referendum result was to Remain. Foreign influence, illegal campaign contributions by millionaires and lies such as the GBP350Million/week payable to the EU and immigration swayed the vote. Many ex-pats in Europe and overseas were not given a chance to vote. Most jurisdictions require a majority of 60% (EU55%) for such an action as Brexit which has already done severe damage to the UK economy. As for having a second referendum, if the Government can have three votes on it and consider a fourth, why should the public not have a second referendum based on the real facts and not the lies spread by Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage? This time let's follow the law on referendums and enforce the 55% majority rule, then Remain will win by a clear majority. Clearly we have "Leave" to "Remain". Like I said before sophistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said: So what? If the silly arrogant Remainers had got behind the idea of leaving the pound would not be in the state it is in. Instead they sowed disunity and this uncertainty has resulted in damage to the economy. And he blames those who support Remain. I’ll remind you, it is Brexiteer pumping out the ‘us against the elite’ politics of division. But hey ho - It’s always somebody else’s fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Estrada said: We are the 63% who did not vote to leave. The referendum was supposed to have been advisory and the law requires a majority of 55% of those who voted before the Government should action Brexit. In other words the referendum result was to Remain. Foreign influence, illegal campaign contributions by millionaires and lies such as the GBP350Million/week payable to the EU and immigration swayed the vote. Many ex-pats in Europe and overseas were not given a chance to vote. Most jurisdictions require a majority of 60% (EU55%) for such an action as Brexit which has already done severe damage to the UK economy. As for having a second referendum, if the Government can have three votes on it and consider a fourth, why should the public not have a second referendum based on the real facts and not the lies spread by Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage? This time let's follow the law on referendums and enforce the 55% majority rule, then Remain will win by a clear majority. Clearly we have "Leave" to "Remain". Don't you lot ever tire of the taste of sour grapes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Kinnock said: GBP will be 1:1 with USD soon and heading towards 1:1 with the Thai Baht by October. Thanks Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, bizboi said: What a ridiculous argument!!! Do you really want to claim that all people not on the electoral roll should have a vote? does that include every random foetus? and shall we apply that to election results next time Labour crawl into power? By the way - maybe you would like to produce the SAME diagram with one of your little red circles round the "remain" vote - you would find it would be smaller!! The lengths that remainers will go to in order to try to overturn a democratic legal result are truly sad. But we all know where it comes from - just have a look at the fiddled Liebour vote in Peterborough last week!! Yep. Foetuses. sperms, eggs and under age bots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, david555 said: Same moment Brexiteers understand no re opening negotiations as said multiple times by E.U. End station ! The tory elections are not gone change anything for that , fake promises full daydreaming .. And the EU negotiated with fake faith. They said "no cherry picking"! Well there are bunches of ripe cherries for them in their fake WA. Total bullies and untrustworthy. Time to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Remind me what Farage said about a 48:52 result immediately prior to the referendum? Irrelevant, as is the tired old Remoaner argument about whether the referendum was "advisory". Farage is not even a member of Parliament, which committed to the referendum result with the triggering of Article 50 in March 2017. Both the EU and the British government accepted this decision as irrevocable, with the EU Commission stating, "Once triggered, Article 50 cannot be unilaterally reversed. Notification is a point of no return". Parliament has dragged its Remainer heels long enough, in the process doing untold damage to the economy and the people's faith in our political system. Unless the government wants a revolution on its hands, we must leave by October 31 - deal or no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Basil B said: The second vote has to be clear on what form of Brexit or Remain. As I see it there are at this time only 3 options. What has been negotiated, no deal or remain. Nothing like clearing the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, nauseus said: And the EU negotiated with fake faith. They said "no cherry picking"! Well there are bunches of ripe cherries for them in their fake WA. Total bullies and untrustworthy. Time to go. you must feel very disappointing that you couldn't win , was from the beginning made very clear …, just that to high self esteem from U.K. is the reason for your situation , but you see even E.U. said that no transition period get you a nice cliff edge bonus at 9 billion , with no discussion from their side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: Another family day out for the Europeans walking around parts of London. March all you want the British majority voted to leave. Accept it and do something better with your time. It has now been debunked that a million people marched last time. Over inflated figures yet again. More hash from the pro EU Reuters. I suppose you changed your mind probably comparing to issues three years or more ago? So please grant your country fellows the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, nauseus said: Labour crawl into power? What are you afraid of? A more desasterous government (?) as now is not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, nauseus said: Total bullies and untrustworthy. ........said by a Brit who favoured BJ As PM Hahahaha Rediculous ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: What are you afraid of? A more desasterous government (?) as now is not possible. You have managed to misquote me. These words are from Bizboi's post. Please desist. Besides, I would never spell disastrous like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: ........said by a Brit who favoured BJ As PM Hahahaha Rediculous ???????????? When did I say favoured BJ as PM? Another fake observation. Rediculous ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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