nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: Irrelevant, as is the tired old Remoaner argument about whether the referendum was "advisory". Farage is not even a member of Parliament, which committed to the referendum result with the triggering of Article 50 in March 2017. Both the EU and the British government accepted this decision as irrevocable, with the EU Commission stating, "Once triggered, Article 50 cannot be unilaterally reversed. Notification is a point of no return". Parliament has dragged its Remainer heels long enough, in the process doing untold damage to the economy and the people's faith in our political system. Unless the government wants a revolution on its hands, we must leave by October 31 - deal or no deal. Well the ECJ decided that it would be OK for the UK to decide unilaterally come back to mamma on 9th December. Just one day before the first meaningful (haha) vote. More like a meaningful coincidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, david555 said: you must feel very disappointing that you couldn't win , was from the beginning made very clear …, just that to high self esteem from U.K. is the reason for your situation , but you see even E.U. said that no transition period get you a nice cliff edge bonus at 9 billion , with no discussion from their side Well, leave won the referendum - I'm happy about that. I'll need to revert to GCHQ again to decode the rest. Standby one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: True to Brexiteer form. All that’s wrong in the world is the fault of someone else. And I thought it only applies to Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: And I thought it only applies to Thais The mindset is identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, nauseus said: You have managed to misquote me. These words are from Bizboi's post. Please desist. Besides, I would never spell disastrous like that! As long as you could understand what I mean I don't care. Typing on a phone is for old men sometimes a problem. But you are very smart as proved now. Thanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, nauseus said: When did I say favoured BJ as PM? Another fake observation. Rediculous ridiculous. So as being a smart #### express yourself more clearly and stop poking in anybody's orthography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 These traitors 'demanding' a second referendum should be shot as traitors to the country and democracy. They have NO rights to demand anything. Just poor losers. The country voted and chose. If you do not like the choice - buggggger off and leave the country to loyal citizens. If you feel that I am biased - you are wrong. Had I been allowed to vote I would have voted 'stay' BUT the people have spoken. Right or wrong - end of story. Stop making up justification for your immoral and illegal actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said: These traitors 'demanding' a second referendum should be shot as traitors to the country and democracy. They have NO rights to demand anything. Just poor losers. The country voted and chose. If you do not like the choice - buggggger off and leave the country to loyal citizens. If you feel that I am biased - you are wrong. Had I been allowed to vote I would have voted 'stay' BUT the people have spoken. Right or wrong - end of story. Stop making up justification for your immoral and illegal actions. More Brexit zealotry. What kind of extremist madness is it to accuse people of being traitors and call for them to be shot for exercising their democratic rights to protest? A perfect example of the extremist mindset. Utterly disgraceful. But will Brexit supporters call it out I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 hours ago, freedomnow said: Political deception got Leave over the line....with the NHS bus quotes, shady funding sources for Leave, Cambridge Analytica utilised, and social media manipulation that was not as deeply investigated as it was in USA...though in USA it never amounted to much. I think Remain would win 60/40 this time due to the sheer incompetence of what has happened since. The only way the UK can turn things around is deeper biz tax cuts to pull in new companies making UK as a base and keep City of London cemented in. EU cannot compete on that tax front due to the socialist macro/overall slant and tax needed to fund their super-projects (cash transfers to poorer blocks to upgrade their infrastructure)....though it could then devolve into tit-for-tat tariffs like Trump is doing. But yes, "Singapore of EU" would be the only way to lift the boat short-term based on market sentiment shoring up stocks etc...before it sinks to the bottom, along with the pound at "1 pound to 1 Baht" Win 60/40..........did you do a poll of the UK or are you just another misquoting Remainer? Please read the previous posts as to where another poll would end us up. Remainers win by small margin, Brexiteers demand another poll. Brexiteers win, Remainers demand another poll! It is time Britain got out of this "pink funk" and got on with things. There are many, many more markets to be tapped in to and do you honestly think that the EU would not want to trade with us........think again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Estrada said: The Pound fell because people were fooled by rich businessmen to vote to leave the EU. I few leave the pound will fall further. In my young years 1970, the pound was worth Hfl 10,64 ( /2,2: € 4,83). The DM was then Hfl 0,90. 15 Nov 2015 the pound was wo4th € 1,43, yesterday € 1,1241 and today: € 1,1221, so.. your British do a good job to bring the pound to one ounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, vogie said: I thought Juncker catagorically stated there will be no other deal, the one they have at the moment is the only one on the table, you know the one that has been rejected 3 times already by Parliament. The EU has pushed the UK into a corner, they are being intransigent/bloody minded and that leaves the UK with very little choice. So, because you British were thinking about Brexit since =2013, referendum 2016, so a REAL fact, but.. 2019 could not agree nor come with a suggestion you could find a majority, it is the EU to blame, the EU did not give you a better deal as present ? It reminds me to the negociations, when your minister Brown said to Willi Brandt in 1969: "invite us in, so we can take over.. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Kinnock said: GBP will be 1:1 with USD soon and heading towards 1:1 with the Thai Baht by October. You’ve been listening to those experts who predicted that should the U.K not join the Euro, our economy would crash. The same as all those remainers that predicted that hundreds of thousands would immediately become unemployed if we were to Democratically vote to leave this so called union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, nontabury said: You’ve been listening to those experts who predicted that should the U.K not join the Euro, our economy would crash. The same as all those remainers that predicted that hundreds of thousands would immediately become unemployed if we were to Democratically vote to leave this so called union. Link to the claim that hundreds of thousands would immediately become employed if the electorate voted Leave... please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, puipuitom said: So, because you British were thinking about Brexit since =2013, referendum 2016, so a REAL fact, but.. 2019 could not agree nor come with a suggestion you could find a majority, it is the EU to blame, the EU did not give you a better deal as present ? It reminds me to the negociations, when your minister Brown said to Willi Brandt in 1969: "invite us in, so we can take over.. " Two posts on the bounce where you have used the term "you British" but it is an improvement on last month when you were calling us stupid, so thanks for that, but tone it down it a little more would be nice. I don't want you to like the British, but a little respect would be nice. Plus I don't really see a connection with your reply to my post. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I know dozens if not scores of people with NI numbers who are not citizens and not entitled to vote. Maybe go back to a land ownership requirement?! Good point. So let’s have the requirements to be a British citizens, combined with the possession of a N.I. number. Happy now, or would that exclude you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, nauseus said: Thanks Neil. In case our none British remainers are unaware who you are referring to. This man as leader of the opposition, successfully lead his party to Not one, but two GeneralElection defeats, before resigning and taking up a position in Brussels as a E.u commissioner, later to become Vice President Of the European Commission.Where he worked alongside his wife. He is of course a europhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, nontabury said: Good point. So let’s have the requirements to be a British citizens, combined with the possession of a N.I. number. Happy now, or would that exclude you. That's for me to know and not a matter for discussion on TVF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, sawadee1947 said: I suppose you changed your mind probably comparing to issues three years or more ago? So please grant your country fellows the same. Don't worry Sien Fein will be back supporting Ireland out of the EU soon so that will give you something to cheer about. The thing with these marches is many of them are not my fellow countrymen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, nontabury said: In case our none British remainers are unaware who you are referring to. This man as leader of the opposition, successfully lead his party to Not one, but two GeneralElection defeats, before resigning and taking up a position in Brussels as a E.u commissioner, later to become Vice President Of the European Commission.Where he worked alongside his wife. He is of course a europhile. I've met Neil Kinnock on a number of occasions, nice bloke but he set the wheels in motion for Labour MPs to be selected by central office rather than their local constituency, which to my mind is the root cause of the complaint that MPs no longer represent their constituencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Don't worry Sien Fein will be back supporting Ireland out of the EU soon so that will give you something to cheer about. The thing with these marches is many of them are not my fellow countrymen. "The thing with these marches is many of them are not my fellow countrymen". And you have evidence to back that claim up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, puipuitom said: So, because you British were thinking about Brexit since =2013, referendum 2016, so a REAL fact, but.. 2019 could not agree nor come with a suggestion you could find a majority, it is the EU to blame, the EU did not give you a better deal as present ? It reminds me to the negociations, when your minister Brown said to Willi Brandt in 1969: "invite us in, so we can take over.. " You are so wrong, the British have since the 80’s come to realize that we were conned and lied to in 1975. When we were assured that we would be joining a trading block and not a political union. Since that date the clamour for our departure from this so so called union,has steadily increased, resulting in our voting Democratically in 2016 to finally leave. Unfortunately since that Democratic, vote our Treacherous and Arrogant M.p’s lead by remainer T.May have tried to override the electorates decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, nontabury said: Good point. So let’s have the requirements to be a British citizens, combined with the possession of a N.I. number. Happy now, or would that exclude you. My fuller posts on the subject have leaned in that direction but i credited posters will getting my drift without tapping it out in morse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, nontabury said: You are so wrong, the British have since the 80’s come to realize that we were conned and lied to in 1975. When we were assured that we would be joining a trading block and not a political union. Since that date the clamour for our departure from this so so called union,has steadily increased, resulting in our voting Democratically in 2016 to finally leave. Unfortunately since that Democratic, vote our Treacherous and Arrogant M.p’s lead by remainer T.May have tried to override the electorates decision. You are of course speaking for yourself, I'm absolutely sure millions don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuandjulie Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Not getting involved with leave/stay bull, there is something that does need to be understood though. The referendum result was NOT binding as many think. Sitting MP's DO NOT have to vote the way their constituents would wish. I am not going into parliamentary procedures, it would take forever, suffice to say they have the latitude to vote how they like. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: That's for me to know and not a matter for discussion on TVF. Why did you create the illusion that you were heading back to UK to vote recently and that you had some sort of influence over a candidate ('part of the team' or something like that)? What can possibly be gained by such illusion followed by being deliberately evasive afterwards? Can I expect to be reported to the headmaster again simply for asking? If 'yes' perhaps they'll at least look into it as there's a fair amount of trolling going on and it isn't from this direction. As I pointed out in a separate thread yesterday some of us are gifted with razor sharp memories & when someone pops up telling porkies they invariably come unstuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morty T Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 hours ago, freedomnow said: They'd have to be clear before-hand that a second vote would be the absolute decider unless it was a hung 50/50 result (improbable now). The only vote that matters to Liberals is the one where they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, nontabury said: Good point. So let’s have the requirements to be a British citizens, combined with the possession of a N.I. number. Happy now, or would that exclude you. My requirements would be your grandparents and parents were British Citizens. And remove all others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, david555 said: Same moment Brexiteers understand no re opening negotiations as said multiple times by E.U. End station ! The tory elections are not gone change anything for that , fake promises full daydreaming .. Totally agree - no need to re-open negotiations - its voted for now done and dusted - the majority have spoken get on with IT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: You are of course speaking for yourself, I'm absolutely sure millions don't agree with you. But the voting majority did - leave WON remain LOST end of story!! Easy enough to understand even for lefty!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The mindset is identical. ahhh nice one Chomper - a lefty and at the same time a true racist!! sort your head out before posting maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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