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BANGKOK 17 July 2019 02:07
starman97015

Only One Income Source Accepted for Non-O Extension

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I went to Immigration to get an extension on my non-O visa based on marriage. I teach English here, and I wanted to use the income method of receiving at least 40,000 baht per month, as I do not have 400,000 baht sitting in the bank. My school pays 32,000 baht per month as a base salary and I get an additional 24,000 baht per month from family in America.

Immigration said I had to choose one source of income for them to consider, and since neither source is over 40,000 baht, I cannot get a non-O extension. This does not make much sense to me. I am getting a total income of 56,000 baht per month from two sources, but Immigration will only consider one. Has anyone else encountered this? It appears at this point that I will have to get a non-B visa through my school because both income sources are less than 40,000 baht each. I have been receiving non-O extensions for the last three years when the embassy was issuing income affidavits. Why won't Immigration look at both sources and add the two?

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What office was this???

 

With the income based method I think practically all of us (at least from the UK) rely on multiple income sources to reach the income required for our extensions, whether they be extensions based on marriage or retirement. Very few of us will receive a pension (income) of more than 40/65k baht pm from a single source.

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Others have had the same problem when working here and wanting to combine that income from another source. They require all the income to be from working here.

What are you using to prove your income from outside the country?

The problem has arisen before when people were using proof of income from an embassy. Not sure if they would be more flexible if you were using transfers from abroad into a Thai bank for the proof.

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I just have a wague memory of the need to come up to a certain amount of salury out of working to get granted an extension based on that work permit. I also remember that was a different amount depending on what country you are coming from. Might have something to do with it.

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I did not show any proof of income from the second source because Immigration was not interested in it unless it was over 40,000 baht. I had to choose one source for them to consider.

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1 hour ago, starman97015 said:

I did not show any proof of income from the second source because Immigration was not interested in it unless it was over 40,000 baht. I had to choose one source for them to consider.

As I wrote that it is a standard at immigration when using income from working. Others have tried and it was not accepted. The rules do not state that but it appears to be a policy.

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If the OP is from a country that's no longer issuing income affidavits as he indicates, then the normal method now of documenting monthly income would be via monthly foreign transfers into a Thai bank account.

 

But when that person is also working in Thailand and earning a salary, is Immigration now saying that they won't accept any monthly foreign transfer source income as an addition to his Thai salary?

 

That's one I've never heard before!

 

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1 hour ago, sumrit said:

With the income based method I think practically all of us (at least from the UK) rely on multiple income sources to reach the income required for our extensions, whether they be extensions based on marriage or retirement. Very few of us will receive a pension (income) of more than 40/65k baht pm from a single source

I've got one element of my pension income that exceeded the 40k comfortably when I decided to finish with my employment in 2018 (UK) now with exchange rate decline, the indexation has not kept up, and it will be 39999/ Baht a month soon (and I could not show I had 12 baht in my savings account 😀). Anyway my income is split into various sources by advice and design.

Never consider directly crediting a pension here, is now adopted as policy 🙄 

 

32 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Others have tried and it was not accepted. The rules do not state that but it appears to be a policy. 

Another example why you should not try to hard based on todays  mood to conform, as in a few months time they will have a different day dream, and move the goal posts again! 

Edited by UKresonant

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30 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

If the OP is from a country that's no longer issuing income affidavits as he indicates, then the normal method now of documenting monthly income would be via monthly foreign transfers into a Thai bank account.

But when that person is also working in Thailand and earning a salary, is Immigration now saying that they won't accept any monthly foreign transfer source income as an addition to his Thai salary?

That's one I've never heard before!

 

I have only seen reports of it being refused when proof of income was from an embassy.

Not sure transfers into a Thai bank would be accepted. But I suspect it would be the same.

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1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

I just have a wague memory of the need to come up to a certain amount of salury out of working to get granted an extension based on that work permit. I also remember that was a different amount depending on what country you are coming from. Might have something to do with it.

That is only for an extension of stay based upon working. The OP is applying for an extension of stay based upon marriage that only requires a income of 40k baht.

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2 hours ago, starman97015 said:

My school pays 32,000 baht per month as a base salary and I get an additional 24,000 baht per month from family in America.

 

@ubonjoe...just sayin"....   If the OP remitted say 14K of his salary every month back to his family via DeeMoney or similar, and then the family instead of sending the normal 24K sent the combined 40K per month back to him into a Thai bank account, would that work with Immigration?

 

In other words, he wouldn't be reporting/relying on his Thai salary at all, and instead, relying on a monthly 40K xfer into his Thai bank account?

 

PS - This is the kind of tortured stupidity that has resulted from Immigration and/or the Embassies of the US UK and Aus. getting out of the income affidavits business for those 3 countries, while pretty much all the other countries were left to continue as they had always done, and then Immigration's tortured rules to try to adopt a replacement method for monthly income.

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41 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

In other words, he wouldn't be reporting/relying on his Thai salary at all, and instead, relying on a monthly 40K xfer into his Thai bank account?

That might be possible unless immigration wants proof of the source of the income. 

But if he is using a proof of income from his embassy that might no be needed unless immigration wants backup proof for it.

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17 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That might be possible unless immigration wants proof of the source of the income. 

But if he is using a proof of income from his embassy that might no be needed unless immigration wants backup proof for it.

 

I read the OP's post as suggesting he was from one of the countries whose embassy has ceased issuing income letters.

 

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 I have been receiving non-O extensions for the last three years when the embassy was issuing income affidavits.

 

Maybe @starman97015 can clarify if he's one of those who has now lost access to being able to get an Embassy income affidavit...

 

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Start sending  the teaching money to your country and have your friend include his  share when transfering it all back to you in Thailand , It's costly but how desperate are you

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