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How long can a forigner stay at a Thai persons home before the home owner has to file a tm 30

I heard over 24 hours if it's less how long

Does it make any difference if its at night or in the day time

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The 24 hours is to do the report after a person arrives at the residence not the length of stay.

If using a hotel doing the report as a example just checking in requires the report so I would say the intent to stay overnight would require the report to be done.

Of course if staying at a private residence immigration would not know about it or possibley even be able to prove it.

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Yeah, can't see the "Curtain Hotels" filing a TM30. 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, phka said:

How long can a forigner stay at a Thai persons home before the home owner has to file a tm 30

I heard over 24 hours if it's less how long

Does it make any difference if its at night or in the day time

Anywhere you stay overnight someone is responsible to report that stay within 24 hours of your arrival.

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24 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You only need to file tm30 if you need attend immigration. Such as an extension. Next week I fly Phitsanulok. Few nights. Then drive many locations after that.

How many tm30 do people need report. Just do one before you need visit imm office. The rules are rubbish.

Unless they visit your home/condo looking to catch people out, which happens!

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I know that it may be naive to apply logic but when you are not the householder you don’t report so it doesn’t matter how long you stay in someone else’s home.  

Naive?  Consider the 90 day report. The Immigration Act is complied with every time you report your address to Immigration but one Immigration Chief thought that a new ‘desk’ was necessary with the result that if you report 90 days after renewing your extension but 98 days after arriving in the country, a fine is in order. 

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1 hour ago, elviajero said:

Unless they visit your home/condo looking to catch people out, which happens!

I have read ONE report of that. That was sukhumvit. Can you direct me an imm visit to more obscure locations. Excluding people on marriage extensions.

 

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2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I have read ONE report of that. That was sukhumvit. Can you direct me an imm visit to more obscure locations. Excluding people on marriage extensions.

There have been several. The point is that it's not only when dealing with an immigration office that you can get caught and fined.

 

Home visits happen for retirees too, although not as often.

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2 minutes ago, elviajero said:

There have been several. The point is that it's not only when dealing with an immigration office that you can get caught and fined.

 

Home visits happen for retirees too, although not as often.

Please direct me to one. Specifically someone living in a random condo. Thai imm might target somewhere like Trendy building soi 13 as an example. Many sub let rooms etc there with farang owners. Some using airbnb. So yes imm might make a raid to collect money.

You state home visits. Yes home visits are common for extensions based on marriage. 

So....if someone is on extension living in random condo they can risk a visit from imm? 

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Just now, DrJack54 said:

Please direct me to one. Specifically someone living in a random condo.

Not without trawling through past topics, which I don't have time to do.

 

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Thai imm might target somewhere like Trendy building soi 13 as an example. Many sub let rooms etc there with farang owners. Some using airbnb. So yes imm might make a raid to collect money.

You state home visits. Yes home visits are common for extensions based on marriage. 

So....if someone is on extension living in random condo they can risk a visit from imm? 

Yes, of course they can. And IMO it's getting more and more likely random visits will be made as they clampdown on retirees as they've done with spouses.

 

Immigration are clearly under orders to keep a better track of our whereabouts/movements - enforce the law. And FYI each local police station is supposed to keep a register of every foreigner living in their area. There was a spate of police visits in Nakhon Nowheres following the Bangkok bombing when the local police went in to arse covering mode, and depending on who's pulling the strings that could happen again.

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I did go looking for reports regarding imm visiting condos looking for folk on extensions based on retirement. To check for filing TM30. I cannot find ONE. That does not surprise me.

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2 hours ago, BertM said:

Many on TV seem to be getting all worked up about TM30s and CW setting up a TM30 counter. I am not one who's convinced that we are required to report to IM after every stay away from our residence like a convict having to report in to his probation officer, whether it's a 1 nt stay with a friend or in a hotel, or a weekend trip to Pattaya or even an out-of-country trip. I have been here 3 years and have traveled numerous times in-country as well as internationally and only had to do one 90-day report in those 3 years. I have never been fined or questioned about my residence by IM and I live in BK. I have never notified my Leasing company of my travels and they have never asked me to either. Maybe things are changing, but I am not going to worry about a possible 800b fine that may never happen. Best wishes to all...

 

That's all very true. I have never done one 90 day report or a tm30 at CW in 7 yrs living bkk.

Fact is now this seems to be requirement for CW. Also being fined 800baht at CW for not having up to date TM30.

Even to extent of condo being "raided" according to above nonsense from some posts.

Personally I intend to do tm30 by mail just prior to my visit to cw for next extension. Let's hope this over zealous stuff ends soon. Most likely not now that Thai have found another way to milk farang.

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