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BANGKOK 22 July 2019 16:58
AussieBob18

Renewal of Retirement Visa back in home country (Australia)

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Because of the complications of keeping a minimum certain amount of funds in Thai banks, a mate of mine is considering getting a new Retirement Visa next time he is back in Australia.  He has gone to the local Immigration Office (Khon Kaen) and has received all the information about the complications with the money in bank (etc etc) when he will be up for Extension later this year.  He has decided that he does not want to go through that process (likewise for Extension for Marriage), and given that he goes back to Australia for 2 months over Xmas and New Year, he wants to just get a new Retirement Visa and use that for the following 12 months, and then another 12 months permission to stay under the automatic extension, and then do it again (every 2 years).

 

Has anyone got any experience or advice with regards to ongoing renewal of a Retirement Visa every 2 years when he is back in Australia?

 

I am assuming that the automatic 12 months extension of permission to stay, via a trip out and back into the country, is still valid - please let me know if this is no longer the case.

 

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9 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

Has anyone got any experience or advice with regards to ongoing renewal of a Retirement Visa every 2 years when he is back in Australia?

It’s a new application every time and as long as he meets the financial/other requirements — as it stands — he’ll have no problem getting a new visa every two years.

 

It’s possible he’ll have to have medical insurance to get the visa in the future.

 

9 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

I am assuming that the automatic 12 months extension of permission to stay, via a trip out and back into the country, is still valid - please let me know if this is no longer the case.

Yes, although it’s not an extension of stay. Every time he enters — before the visa expires — he gets a new 1 year stay.

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OP that's exactly what I was planning. Only issue is possibility on compulsory health insurance in the future. Meaning added cost. If insurance does not eventuate I will obtain O-A every 2 yrs.

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Thanks for the advice elviajero - I amd glad to hear that and I will pass that on.

 

Regarding the health insurance, because he travels back and forth every year and still 'resides' in Australia, he gets a new Travel Insurance Policy each time he visits Thailand and he will continue to do the same going forward.  You can get Travel Insurance for up to 12 months at a time, which includes more than enough Medical Insurance, as long as you reside in Australia and have both a departure and return ticket etc.  

 

At the moment the wife and I only visit for a month each time and we do the same, but in the future (after getting the age pension) we will be doing the same every 12 months or so too.  I am assuming that Travel Insurance issued in by a recognised company Australia would comply with the Thailand requirements, but if you think not please let me know.

 

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Who knows what Thai will require regarding health insurance. Its not even a requirement right now. Its a lottery. For someone considering O-A....asap good idea

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yes and do those cleverlies have a thai health insurance, which is mandatory for successfull non-o a visa applications as from 01072019. thb400k inpatient , 40k opd

 

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48 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

I am assuming that Travel Insurance issued in by a recognised company Australia would comply with the Thailand requirements, but if you think not please let me know.

The underlying reason for bringing in compulsory insurance is to benefit Thai insurance companies. The 'O-X' visa already requires compulsory insurance and according to the London Thai Embassy it is "Thai medical insurance".

 

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html

"Applicants must have Thai medical insurance during their stay in Thailand (per the approval of the Office of Insurance Commission) and medical claims for outpatient must not be less than 40,000 Baht, for inpatient must not be less than 400,000 Baht."

 

I don't know anyone that's applied for the 'O-X' visa so I've no idea yet if alternative insurance will be accepted, or if the 'O-A' will have the same condition; but I expect it will only be Thai insurance.

 

See https://longstay.tgia.org.

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16 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

yes and do those cleverlies have a thai health insurance, which is mandatory for successfull non-o a visa applications as from 01072019. thb400k inpatient , 40k opd

No. Nothing official. There has been no announcement from the MFA, and Thai Embassies & Consulates didn't add this (yet?) in their requirements (AFAIK).

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17 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

yes and do those cleverlies have a thai health insurance, which is mandatory for successfull non-o a visa applications as from 01072019. thb400k inpatient , 40k opd

The date for the insurance requirement to apply for a OA long stay visa at embassy or official consulate in your home country has not been officially announced yet.

The first of July was only a speculated date.

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and why does www.thaiembassy.it in rome stipulates under no.4  non o-a visa requirements subject no.7  medical insurance ???

 

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22 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

and why does www.thaiembassy.it in rome stipulates under no.4  non o-a visa requirements subject no.7  medical insurance ???

I do not know why it is there. I may be a local requirement or it could be an error since it does not detail the amount of insurance like it does for the OX long stay visa.

"7. Copy of evidence stating that applicants have insurance as per stipulated by the Office of Insurance Commission and health insurance of Thailand which has insurance money for outpatient not less than 40,000 Baht and for inpatient not less than 400,000 Baht. Please check < http://longstay.tgia.org > for more information regarding the insurance requirement."

Source: http://www.thaiembassy.it/images/visa_Non-O-X.pdf

 

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@ubonjoe  the thaiembassy.it non-oa requirement medical insurance has been there since may 2019.

 

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2 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

@ubonjoe  the thaiembassy.it non-oa requirement medical insurance has been there since may 2019.

 

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Looks like they've jumped the gun. I'm pretty sure insurance will become compulsory for the 'O-A' visa, but as yet they haven't formally confirmed when.

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Thanks all - looks like he (and I) will need to keep an eye on the health insurance requirements.  I wonder what the 'UN rules' are about mandating only Thai based medical insurance coverage for Non-Immigrant Visas for Citizens of other countries who have no residential rights in Thailand.  I can understand that for new Immigrants a country can mandate to have in-country health insurance, but for Non-Immigrants or Tourists I think that would be in breach of some UN rule or two.  Fat chance of telling the Thais that though. 

 

Has anyone got any idea of what happens when the person is over 70 or 75? I understand normal Thai based medical insurance is not available for anyone over 70 or 75.

 

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13 hours ago, AussieBob18 said:

Thanks all - looks like he (and I) will need to keep an eye on the health insurance requirements.  I wonder what the 'UN rules' are about mandating only Thai based medical insurance coverage for Non-Immigrant Visas for Citizens of other countries who have no residential rights in Thailand.  I can understand that for new Immigrants a country can mandate to have in-country health insurance, but for Non-Immigrants or Tourists I think that would be in breach of some UN rule or two.  Fat chance of telling the Thais that though. 

 

Has anyone got any idea of what happens when the person is over 70 or 75? I understand normal Thai based medical insurance is not available for anyone over 70 or 75.

 

It becomes expensive after 60 and especially so after 70 - probably best to go home at that point :)

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