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Jonathan Fairfield

US pensioner arrested for staying in Thailand illegally

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1 hour ago, Odysseus123 said:

You have been doing it for years-attacking every "farang" in sight..it is a staple of your daily existence-and what an existence it must be..

 

Stating facts about a persons reason for being incarcerated  , whilst correcting another persons wrong information , is not "attacking" that person .

Its simply stating facts 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I thought you moved to Australia last year? Did you manage to come back?

18 minutes ago, sanemax said:

 

 

I've been back twice!

 

Gawd..keep up with the times.😂

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20 minutes ago, sanemax said:

 I accept your apology . 

None tendered.

 

 

 

 

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Obviously different people have different views on overstay and how it should be handled.

As per the pensioner who, I think, got things confused with respect to what to actually do re' a 'visa run' many first time visitors are totally unaware of the options, various, that exist for staying longer.

If you are a long term visitor the you should make yourself aware of the options well prior to extending your stay.

If it's his 4th/5th/6th time in Thailand then it's down to him. If it's his first time here then perhaps he got bad info' from a bar stool lawyer on the lines of 'you need to go back to the border and sort it there'. Conjecture on my part yes.

No-one has any idea how he reacted when intially told 'you are in Thailand without a visa and not legal, maybe he blew his top which is obviously the wrong thing to do. 

Perhaps/most likely even going to the airport without an entry stamp would have produced the same result.

Ok, overstay is overstay but he got himself into a different situation.

It's impossible to know the exact situation and trying to be fair it would be difficult for a border IO to tell who has made an unfortunate mistake and who is is trying to skirt the system.

Saying all that I feel that IDC is the worst option for a 69 years old guy.

As more and more information is going on Imm' systems would a fine and a record of ban on entry for a year going on computer and in the passport be more humane with say 14 days to sort things out then fly home?

If caught again still here after the 14 days then IDC and a longer blacklist applied.

Just sayin'

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4 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

None tendered.

 

 

 

 

You began your post with "sorry" , which is an apology , which I accepted .

If you retract your apology, I wont  accept that one 

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8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

You began your post with "sorry" , which is an apology , which I accepted .

If you retract your apology, I wont  accept that one 

The "sorry" is merely  a matter of courtesy before I disagreed with you.

 

Your question as to my supposed "illegality" was not rhetorical.

 

I suggest in future that you do not accuse people of an illegal activity in Thailand on an open forum.

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13 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Stupidity isn't an excuse for a crime.

 

  Overstay is a crime ,  <deleted> .

 

 

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17 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Obviously different people have different views on overstay and how it should be handled.

As per the pensioner who, I think, got things confused with respect to what to actually do re' a 'visa run' many first time visitors are totally unaware of the options, various, that exist for staying longer.

If you are a long term visitor the you should make yourself aware of the options well prior to extending your stay.

If it's his 4th/5th/6th time in Thailand then it's down to him. If it's his first time here then perhaps he got bad info' from a bar stool lawyer on the lines of 'you need to go back to the border and sort it there'. Conjecture on my part yes.

No-one has any idea how he reacted when intially told 'you are in Thailand without a visa and not legal, maybe he blew his top which is obviously the wrong thing to do. 

Perhaps/most likely even going to the airport without an entry stamp would have produced the same result.

Ok, overstay is overstay but he got himself into a different situation.

It's impossible to know the exact situation and trying to be fair it would be difficult for a border IO to tell who has made an unfortunate mistake and who is is trying to skirt the system.

Saying all that I feel that IDC is the worst option for a 69 years old guy.

As more and more information is going on Imm' systems would a fine and a record of ban on entry for a year going on computer and in the passport be more humane with say 14 days to sort things out then fly home?

If caught again still here after the 14 days then IDC and a longer blacklist applied.

Just sayin'

Well your post is definitely more humane-which is a plus in my view.

 

Otherwise I cleave to my present position..there must be something in the water over there..or the lead piping,perhaps?

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But I thought no human was illegal?? Maybe the open borders left wing lunatics in the US can go put their theory to the test in Thailand

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If these useless idiots had a proper setup in place at land borders, sneaking in or out would be much more difficult. I can't tell if this guy did it by accident or for a nefarious reason, but what's one American compared with millions of illegals from neighboring countries anyway? The big show is way over the top in any case.

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15 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Stupidity isn't an excuse for a crime.

That's not a bad point and should be applied to the quarter million or so(?) Thais having either overstayed in the US or planted anchor babies who are counted as "Americans". Their children are pampered and educated at falang expense. Oh but that's fine and dandy. 

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6 minutes ago, AdamKnight said:

That's not a bad point and should be applied to the quarter million or so(?) Thais having either overstayed in the US or planted anchor babies who are counted as "Americans". Their children are pampered and educated at falang expense. Oh but that's fine and dandy. 

The difference is Thailand enforces its immigration laws while the idiots in the US congress think its a human right to break the law and are literally rolling out the red carpet for illegals. America's thoroughly dysfunctional immigration system is a cautionary tale

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Looks to me as if he may have thought he had been allowed back into Thailand at first then went back and was told to pay a fine.  He then went home instead of seeking advice and paying the fine. Maybe this is his first visit to the country... maybe he went home to seek advice/talk to friends???? Who knows but whatever the reason it was wrong. But hey come on a huge song and dance for what is only actually a 10 day overstay. Another imm8gration story that really is nothing. The man did wrong tell him let him pay what is owed and let him on his way.  

Its not as if he is the same as the gent from UK last week who had been accused of murder, was a known drug dealer and was wanted by the UK law. 

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What a laughable incident! If all crimes are addressed it may be OK to devote 5 persons to catch this "major criminal".

 

IMHO he may have made a mistake at the friendship bridge leading to this "crime"

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A'h nothing like a good happy group photo shoot of the BIBs of a job well done to demonstrate to the new boss; look boss we are doing a great job here, the 5 of us busted this old Farang guy cheating our impeccable Thai immigration system, it's really the crime of the century and our best bust ever, we boys nailed the old fart; he is going to monkey town until we can deport this dangerous criminal, any chance of a getting more tea money for the boys up here! 

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