huberthammer Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Pilotman said: The moronic displays of idiocy on Thai roads that results in death or injury just makes me so angry. We can make these generalisations,. that most Thai drivers are incompetent behind the wheel, complete idiots, don't think past their nose and just cannot drive. They either go at a snails pace, or drive like lunatics, they can't turn corners and their vision seems to be stuck around 20 metres in front of their vehicle. I count my own Thai family in this generalisation and I refuse to be in a vehicle with any of them and they know why. I have to say the number of Farang drivers in Samui who drive like complete brainless idiots is astonishing high as well. Selfish behaviour without any consideration for the safety of others rules the road here (again by both Thais and Farangs). You can't tell me that the same people who park on the entrance of a narrow Soi so that they don't have to walk 20 meters to the 7-11 would do the same at home (they probably would get decked if they blocked the road in their home country) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: The pickup enters the screen already on the pavement, so chances are he did swerve to avoid something, out of screen shot... Doesn't excuse the excessive speed at all though !! Or dropped his phone, or dropped his cigarette lighter, or woke up, or didn't wake up, or brakes failed, you make up the rest, or xxxxxxx, or zzzzzzz, or ssssssss, or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptooyoo Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Another man-child at the wheel careening down the road at twice the speed limit with no regard for anyone. Only solution is to yank their licenses (if they even have one) put them in jail, and grind-up their vehicles....time for Thailand to enforce traffic laws and put offenders back on bicycles and scooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanterbrigianBangkoker Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 19 hours ago, evadgib said: You can take a horse to water... But you can't make him think! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Thias drive to kill. NO common sense - ever!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 21 hours ago, fantom said: Time to stop describing these events as 'accidents.' Other descriptors are: Collision / collided Impact Hit Crashed. 'Accident' implies the root cause (I know I know) of an event such as this was unforseeable. In this case that is utter nonsense, the driver of the pickup, driving too fast, lost control, colliding with a pregant woman and killing her. It matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: You are being disingenuous to the young lady. Watch the video carefully. She was looking over her shoulder and she saw the truck hurtling towards her. She was jumping off her motorcycle as she was hit. The lane that she was in is in fact a motorcycle/bicycle lane. It is not for parking as many people seem to assume! This lane was created many years ago by the powers that be and went all of the way around the island. The truck was actually in that lane and heading for the pavement. It was not on the road. The driver was way out of control. Looking at the young lady's actions, she was being very careful about looking both ways - there was nothing wrong with her actions and thanks to the idiot in the truck, this accident was unavoidable by her actions. 'this accident might have been avoided' is a nonsense. Sad waste of two lives. "The lane that she was in is in fact a motorcycle/bicycle lane. It is not for parking as many people seem to assume!" Now you're being disingenuous, watch the video carefully. Regardless of the sadness of this accident, she had parked the bike in that lane prior to moving off, that's why she was there! "'...this accident might have been avoided' is a nonsense". Unfortunately, that is not 'a nonsense', if she had not parked her bike there (illegally, according to you) this accident would not have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptooyoo Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 22 hours ago, Just Weird said: "The lane that she was in is in fact a motorcycle/bicycle lane. It is not for parking as many people seem to assume!" Now you're being disingenuous, watch the video carefully. Regardless of the sadness of this accident, she had parked the bike in that lane prior to moving off, that's why she was there! "'...this accident might have been avoided' is a nonsense". Unfortunately, that is not 'a nonsense', if she had not parked her bike there (illegally, according to you) this accident would not have happened. The truck had no right to enter the bicycle lane, slam into the curb, plow over the sidewalk and kill the pregnant lady in the bike lane. That's what the truck did before it careened right and smashed into the lady in the opposing traffic lane. If others had been standing on the sidewalk next to the pregnant lady, they would have died too. At the very end of the video, you'll see a a man in a striped shirt come out and stand on the sidewalk and point. He stands right in the path the truck took, where he would have been killed just seconds before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 ALways makes me angry. There are too many idiots on koh samui and koh phangan driving with high speed. It is above all the local taxi drivers, mini bus drivers, delivery truck drivers and building material suppliers. Driving with a misanthropic recklessness that needs no further description. I do not understand why on the islands not a general speed limit of 50 km / h is introduced and enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huberthammer Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 16 hours ago, tomacht8 said: I do not understand why on the islands not a general speed limit of 50 km / h is introduced and enforced. Enforcement is the main thing. Many of the accidents would never happen if the existing speed limits were obeyed. The current situation without a single speed gun on the island is so out of control that there is no point in even discussing changes to the speed limit. Twice a week random speed checks between Maenam and Nathon alone would probably yield enough fines to have Mercedes police cars in Samui within a year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 19 hours ago, Uptooyoo said: The truck had no right to enter the bicycle lane, slam into the curb, plow over the sidewalk and kill the pregnant lady in the bike lane. That's what the truck did before it careened right and smashed into the lady in the opposing traffic lane. If others had been standing on the sidewalk next to the pregnant lady, they would have died too. At the very end of the video, you'll see a a man in a striped shirt come out and stand on the sidewalk and point. He stands right in the path the truck took, where he would have been killed just seconds before. I don't dispute that, apart from your hypothetical claim that if others had been there they would have been killed also. There were no others there, that's irrelevant. If you and I had been there we could have been killed also but we weren't! If you bother to actually read my comment in context you'll find that I was responding to a poster who, on one hand, said that parking was not allowed where the accident happened and that the woman should not have been there, yet on the other hand he contradicted himself and supported the woman by claiming that she had done nothing wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptooyoo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Just Weird said: I don't dispute that, apart from your hypothetical claim that if others had been there they would have been killed also. There were no others there, that's irrelevant. If you and I had been there we could have been killed also but we weren't! If you bother to actually read my comment in context you'll find that I was responding to a poster who, on one hand, said that parking was not allowed where the accident happened and that the woman should not have been there, yet on the other hand he contradicted himself and supported the woman by claiming that she had done nothing wrong! Ok, I redirect my comments to the poster you were responding to. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP PLP Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 REST IN PEACE POOR LITTLE PATRAPORN This could of been any one of us.Patraporn simply went up to the 7/11 to buy a packet of spaghetti, as i have now learnt thanks to the 'local' intel.The picture shows the 7/11 at the same time of day, five days after the accident.The circled area is the point of impact as shown on the video. I first met Patraporn lying face down on the 19th June at approx 10-11am.Her dead lifeless body surrounded by what was up until ten minutes prior her motorbike.There must of been hundreds of pieces scattered and the blunt force so horrific that the 'bull bar' from the truck had been sheared off.Now i am not a physicist in matter and energy but for a bull bar to be shawn off and deposited meters away from Patraporns body the truck was travelling at some speed. In the video you will notice a Thai woman on a white Italian make scooter knocked down......... Travelling towards Nathon on the morning of the 19th i noticed approx eight cars backed up and a cloud of dust.What i didn`t realise was i was arriving possibly 1 minute after a horrific accident as i was to learn.I rode past the cars and quickly arrived to the point where the Thai woman was with her Italian make scooter.She was joined by another UK gent who, like me, was trying to make sense of what just happened. What i didn`t realise at the time was the driver of the truck was at the point of getting out of the truck. Whats interesting is his initial actions were to move towards the front of the truck and access the damage to the truck.At no point did he stop and try to help or assist Patraporn in any shape or manner.The striped shirt Thai man in the video, as i was told was a government official or so has been alleged. I can only assume that the truck driver once he had establishing that the truck was badly damaged was advised to report to the police shop some 20 meters up the road.By this stage many people had arrived from the local shops and the truck driver was heard to be shouting something in Thai once he had walked past the dead body of poor little Patraporn. Meanwhile the UK gent was trying to make some sense from the Thai woman as to what happened.All i can convey is that she was waiting to turn into the road that leads down to Mimosa resort and in no way contributed to the accident as clearly the right turning rider(s) were 10 meters away. But what you do not see in the video looking Bo Put towards Nathon is that there were more than the one bike turning.From memory and its hard to be precise due to the mess there seemed to be three bikes tangled up in the mess.These riders can only consider themselves lucky to be alive as they could of easily of been fish tailed by the out of control truck. In the shambles of what was the initial first ten minutes i was shocked to see more than one persons taking photos and conveyed my disgust and mentioned to the UK gent that somebody should cover Patraporn.The UK gent took off his shirt and covered Patraporn only to be barked at by the official and was told to remove his shirt.Clearly i was witnessing human nature at its worst in many shapes and forms. So what happened? Its clear that the truck was speeding and veered into the motorcyle lane.The picture shows the point of impact.The truck struck Patraporn and dragged her body to the point of the Mimosa road,dumped her in the middle of the road face down.He then clipped the riders turning right into the Mimosa road and ended up on the other side of the road. Walking towards the police station the truck driver, as i learnt the day after was claiming that he was 'cut off' by another scooter.Instant cowardice as has been mentioned and again human nature at its worse.Now clearly in the video there is no other scooter passing him before the point of impact.The Thai woman on the Italian make scooter turning into Mimosa declared that she was simply waiting to turn.So the truck drivers claim seems to be invalid.It is plausible to suggest that perhaps as a delivery driver he was in a hurry and speeding as is custom in coming down the steep hill that precedes this section of the ringroad. Perhaps he dropped 'something' onto the passenger side floor ( phone,delivery address invoice or cigarette) and combining the fact that he was speeding and a young 22 y/o and perhaps inexperienced driver he yanked the wheel to the left and in that quick action ( 1-3 secs) of retrieving the item veered onto the side lane and instantly killed Patraporn. Patraporn`s family never received the spaghetti and we can only imagine the pain that they went through on that day and are currently going through now.Compounding the pain Patraporn was i believe two months pregnant.Rest in peace porn little Patraporn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (This traffic-related observation doesn't warrant a new thread and isn't on TRR or RoKS FB pages so here goes...) A large tipper-truck was on it's side, having lost it's load & minus a windscreen (and whoever was stuck to it) this afternoon at the Lamai end of the road that leads to the mountain/immigration road near what I call 'dog bend' (there's always a pack there). I don't have any further details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptooyoo Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I have watched many Youtube videos of crashes in Thailand. First thing many do after they smash into someone is get out access the damage to their vehicle. They are horrified when they see the damage to their car, but have absolutely no concern for the person dead, or writhing in pain, on the pavement. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP PLP Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I just spoke to a local today on the PLP situation and the driver of the truck, under questioning from the police admitted that he in fact was trying to retrieve his phone which had slid onto the passenger side of the cab.This admission came apparently when it was pointed out via witness statement and cctv clearly showing that there was no other rider/driver anywhere near to the accident at the time. The family of PLP also cannot make a claim against the driver for any financial compo as he is 'broke'. Sadly and lastly not only was PLP pregnant at the time she also has a young son which has now been left motherless.RIP PLP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieeyed Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Poor women and unborn baby. She had no chance. What he hell was the driver of the truck doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP PLP Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 'read above' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomash Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Unfortunately another crazy young Thai boy driving way too fast and loosing control at the expense of someone elses life. I see these young Thai boys driving motorbikes or cars/trucks way, way too fast and dangerous all the time. It is just a matter of time before they kill themselves or someone else, you always have to watch out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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