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Thai road carnage: deaths top 7,000 this year

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8 hours ago, bluesofa said:

I believe in the power of Beer Leo, that gets me out of the damned awareness cycle, but only temporarily.

I prefer chang🤣

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8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

When I was growing up, we took drivers education courses. They showed us horrendous films, or semi trucks plowing into cars, and literally obliterating everything in their path. They also showed us graphic images of head on collisions. 120mph impacts. Even as a young kid, it made quite an impression. It was horrific, and it was hard to get those images out of your head afterwards. But, it left a lasting impression, and when I started driving, I understood it was serious business, and that it was a very dangerous thing to do.

 

I see people driving here, with their families in the car, and doing things, and taking the kinds of risks no rational or sane person with common sense would do. What for? To gain one minute? Why take those risks? What is the logic? Often, when I am cruising along at 100kph, someone cuts right in front of me. Or someone comes out from the side road, right in front of me. I have to slam on my brakes, or change lanes to avoid him. I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me. So, if he had waited two seconds, he would have had completely safe passage onto the highway. What gives? Where is the intelligence, caution, and prudence? Where is the common sense? What about just the survival instinct? 

 

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, nor enforcement of the law. And Casper the ghost is more visible than the incredibly hapless highway patrol.

 

All of this applies even more so, if driving a motorcycle. 

They do the video thing here. When you renew your 5-year license, you are made to sit through a two-hour video showing peoplr doing stupid stuff then getting mangled, burned or catapuled in some way. It is shocking, but not very educational.

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8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

When I was growing up, we took drivers education courses. They showed us horrendous films, or semi trucks plowing into cars, and literally obliterating everything in their path. They also showed us graphic images of head on collisions. 120mph impacts. Even as a young kid, it made quite an impression. It was horrific, and it was hard to get those images out of your head afterwards. But, it left a lasting impression, and when I started driving, I understood it was serious business, and that it was a very dangerous thing to do.

 

I see people driving here, with their families in the car, and doing things, and taking the kinds of risks no rational or sane person with common sense would do. What for? To gain one minute? Why take those risks? What is the logic? Often, when I am cruising along at 100kph, someone cuts right in front of me. Or someone comes out from the side road, right in front of me. I have to slam on my brakes, or change lanes to avoid him. I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me. So, if he had waited two seconds, he would have had completely safe passage onto the highway. What gives? Where is the intelligence, caution, and prudence? Where is the common sense? What about just the survival instinct? 

 

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, nor enforcement of the law. And Casper the ghost is more visible than the incredibly hapless highway patrol.

 

All of this applies even more so, if driving a motorcycle. 

Careful, when pointing the finger,

I make mistake s on the road too

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1 hour ago, Samuel Smith said:

7078/150 days = 47 people per day right?

102 vehicle deaths per day in the USA. yet they have 272 million registered vehicles to Thailand's 37 million

 

If you gave people a tangible Baht incentive Not to drive, it could work here - people like money.

Similar to turning in your guns to the police - if you turn in your motorbike - say you get 20,000 baht.  

If you show you use taxis, whether motorbike, car,  or any other type of Public transportation - say you receive 10,000 baht a month.  Very utopian vision, think I'll formulate and send into the PM - 55

 

 

The problem as I mentioned before - is overpopulation.  The roads and infrastructure in cities like Bangkok and Pattaya do not have the "holding capacity"  for all the cars and motorcycles.  It is a problem in the USA also.  They plan the big freeways and all - then after they are built they realize there are twice as many cars as 5 years ago when they planned them - so the freeways are already over capacity when opened

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9 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

This should be No1 priority for the P M now without exception .. Casualty rates like that are not out of place in a warzone so rather than pfaffing around with stuff minions could do he could direct his efforts into trying to reduce such a catastrophic toll for the good of all .. 

You forget he is Thai also.

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2 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

Ok, say no more, i'm done.

Good day.

 

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1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

I don't think my wife would be keen on leaving all her family and friends. Would you?

 

1 hour ago, DavisH said:

But remember most of the road deaths here are those on motorbikes. Let's say about 80%. That amounts to 6000 deaths out of 30,000 from those driving other kinds of vehicles. Thailand has 3X Australia's population, so I would say road deaths involving cars may actually not be that different from that of Australia, if we only consider those driving sedans. Driving a car here for nearly 20 years, I don't feel all that less safe than driving in Australia. You would never get me on a bike here though. A colleague was killed a few years back as a passenger on a motorbike taxi that jumped a red light. No bikes for me. 

 

 

Hello Davis. 

You understand the real situation. Thankyou.

 

i think the other guys miss a lot in there hurry to talk about how “stupid” thai people are. They say it together so much they really believe themself. Scared.

 

the motorbikes are very dangerous. Sorry about that your friend.

 

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28 minutes ago, stanleycoin said:

so selfish on the roads

People are selfish.

 

Life is not fair

 

We all got to go sometime

 

Enjoy it safely while it lasts

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Hands up everybody here who has been killed on the road in Thailand. 

 

If you aren't out there, they can't get you, and as Yinn says, if you must, go in a car.

 

I really dont know why its such a bone of contention with everyone here, don't touch the fire and you wont get burned. It's just another thing that wont alter because the fat farang club want it to.

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3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

It won't happen, for the following reasons:

1 - I have never detected any sign of common sense in a Thai, and I've been living here for over 25 years. I am not sure how you teach that, but anyway there is no movement to do so.

Really. You marry thai woman right? And stay here for 25 years? You still alive Barry?

 

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

2 - The Thais have a Me First mentality that is deeply ingrained, and that is the last thing you want to see in a driver.

Donold Trump America First

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

3 - The education system demands that you do not think for yourself but listen and obey, so Thais do not develop the necessary skills to actually think. That may result in my first point above.

So how school get the teacher Barry? 

 

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

4 - Learning to drive in a proper and responsible manner is quite difficult, and Thais do not do difficult. Thais do 'near enough', but on the roads that isn't 'good enough'. One mistake can cost lives, so being lucky enough to get it right most of the time isn't good enough either.

 

Maybe. Sometimes.

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

5 - They have absolutely no concept that the vehicle they are attempting to operate is a potential killer. No concept at all.

No. We know about that Barry.

 

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

6 - Along with inadequate teaching of all things about how to drive properly and safely, there is no test to determine if you have reached a standard where you are not a danger to yourself and others before you take to the road.

Have the license test. 

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

7 - Ask any Thai what their safe breaking distance is and they would have no idea.

Wrong answer Barry.

There is not the distance. The “time” is important.

Should be 4 second behind the next car. Because distance different for different speed. When you ask them about it do you speak thai or English? I think they not understand what you say.

 

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

8 - There are zero police patrols to help prevent accidents by pulling aside selfish and stupid drivers. Their only presence is setting up road blocks which seems in my experience to have only one purpose - to check your tax disc is in the window and up to date.

Wrong Barry. Thailand have road block and motorway police. Not zero. Have “radar”ร also. Hide in the tree. They drive Honda Accord. Maybe not where you live. But have sure.

 

Photo show speed trap and highway patrol car.

 

maybe should calm it down a little bit Barry. Not everybody the safe driver, but most people are. 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Percy P said:

You can drive very carefully but still get involved in an accident if the others drivers are driving carelessly. I don't drive but l look out on what's going on ,l walk towards oncoming traffic to be sure.

don't forget to keep an eye behind for all those driving on the wrong side of the road.

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3 minutes ago, Artisi said:

don't forget to keep an eye behind for all those driving on the wrong side of the road.

Yes, must be careful about that one.

 

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56 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Really. You marry thai woman right? And stay here for 25 years? You still alive Barry?

 

 

Donold Trump America First

 

So how school get the teacher Barry? 

 

 

 

Maybe. Sometimes.

 

No. We know about that Barry.

 

 

Have the license test. 

 

Wrong answer Barry.

There is not the distance. The “time” is important.

Should be 4 second behind the next car. Because distance different for different speed. When you ask them about it do you speak thai or English? I think they not understand what you say.

 

Wrong Barry. Thailand have road block and motorway police. Not zero. Have “radar”ร also. Hide in the tree. They drive Honda Accord. Maybe not where you live. But have sure.

 

Photo show speed trap and highway patrol car.

 

maybe should calm it down a little bit Barry. Not everybody the safe driver, but most people are. 

 

 

 

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Then why do you have some of the most dangerous roads in the world? Please explain your logic.

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10 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Spot on. I would also add the total lack of patience shown by many. Red light runners, not waiting until its clear at a U-turn and not stopping at level crossings when the barriers are down are all prime examples of this. 

Just shows the lack of value they put on their own life and possessions. Never mind others lives and possessions.

 

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