snoop1130 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Civilian groups to submit petition to Parliament to cancel junta's orders By Kanitta Theppajorn The Nation File photo : Jon Ungphakorn, director of the Internet for People’s Laws Project or iLaw Twenty-three civilian groups have prepared to submit at least 10,000 signatures to the Parliament as part of their attempt to revoke the junta’s orders issued under Article 44. The groups were led by Jon Ungphakorn, director of the Internet for People’s Laws Project or iLaw. Jon said the campaign focused on the junta’s 35 orders which the groups determined violated basic human rights, people's rights and democratic principles. The orders remain in place after the general election in March although the country is about to have a new government. The junta that took power in 2014 has occasionally issued orders under the article, providing absolute power. Yingcheep Atchanon, manager of iLaw, told reporters that the campaign has more than 13,400 signatures on its petition that will officially be submitted to the Parliament on June 24. The network will host a campaign this Sunday to solicit more signatures at Thammasat University between 12.30pm and 5.30pm. It planned to invite representatives of seven political parties in the opposition bloc to join the campaign. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30371466 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-06-20 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 It's great to see some kick-back at last against the junta's illicit acts and actions. I hope that enough MPs will take this petition on board to make things uncomfortable for the junta (which is in essence still with us - it has NOT gone away, anymore than Prayut has). Sadly, it is obvious that all the while the junta hold executive power, they will simply dismiss and ignore any challenges to their existence, and their past and present actions. After all, they gave themselves eternal amnesty - an amnesty which even (in their eyes) God Almighty could not gainsay. Because they are HIGHER than God. And the Thai people? They are as NOTHING (until, one day, they decide to act en masse, in their tens of millions). I still see no major sign of that happening. It is not entirely their fault: the junta have stitched everything up so tightly that it is almost impossible now for the Thais to break out of the web of non-democracy and of autocracy that has been tightly woven all around them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Elected officials trying to wrestle power from an entrenched military leadership could lead to some interesting confrontations... Let's hope they keep the discourse civil and that violence does not erupt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 We can only hope that the junta surrounds them and press so hard that it shows who they continue to be. The internet law is one of the harshest silencers of freedom and privacy for all THAI people, Foreigner, Thai companies and foreign companies alike. I really hope the people bind together and stand hard in the Junta, Prayut, Prem Council and Elites face and door. Suppression and corrupt control is not the way for the young Thai’s futures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Jon said the campaign focused on the junta’s 35 orders which the groups determined violated basic human rights, people's rights and democratic principles.Anyone have a list of these 35 orders? It would be interesting to know what we are restricted of doing at the moment. I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said: Anyone have a list of these 35 orders? It would be interesting to know what we are restricted of doing at the moment. I have no idea. one of them. People were prosecuted for liking or sharing their posts http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30312198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 one of them. People were prosecuted for liking or sharing their postshttp://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30312198That's Lese Majeste. These have been law in Thailand for a long time. These are not the new 35 regulations I'm wanting to know more about. Thanks anyway.Sent from my SM-A700FD using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Found it. Article 44 and its orders. Source:- http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30316131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Another example of what orders are given in article 44. Source:- https://ilaw.or.th/node/3938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Wilsonandson said: That's Lese Majeste. These have been law in Thailand for a long time. These are not the new 35 regulations I'm wanting to know more about. Thanks anyway. Sent from my SM-A700FD using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app they were critics of monarchy long before 2014 coup, with multiple lese majeste cases. That's why, and many others, have to flee in may 2014. The junta forbade any contact with them, even liking their social media posts, in 2017. By this order their created streisand effect - ajarn somsak now has 350k followers, marchall and ajarn pavin some 100k each. And many more readers. And they are much more brave in liking, sharing and commenting than in 2017, because there is a whole mass of them, beyond the junta ability to prosecute. btw new lese majeste cases are not taken by prosecutors since december 2017, when ajarn sulawaksa's charges were dropped by order of the king https://www.tlhr2014.com/?p=10431&lang=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Sulawaksa's case was very weak, he merely discussed an elephant battle a few hundred years ago and was arrested for it, where else in the world could that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I think more chance of it being used as toilet paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I fear 23 civilian groups and 10,000 people will be under arrest as subversive elements but wish them luck in sucking this swamp dry from a drinking straw???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 20 hours ago, snoop1130 said: the junta’s 35 orders which the groups determined violated basic human rights, people's rights and democratic principles. https://ilaw.or.th/node/4968 Many of the announcements and orders were issued during the NCPO’s seizure of power in 2014 to suppress political resistance. Given that there has been no attempt to sabotage the military takeover, they are no longer necessary. Many of the announcements and orders sought to deprive people of their rights and liberties to prevent political resistance during the time of the military takeover. As our country has returned to its normal state, the NCPO should restore the rights and liberties that they had taken away to the people as well. https://prachatai.com/english/node/7555 The [22 civil society organisations] network said that there are 35 orders which urgently need to be abolished such as: NCPO Head Order 3/2015, the ban on public gatherings of five people or more; NCPO Head Order 13/2016, the crackdown on influential figures; and NCPO Head Order 9/2016, the exemption from the EIA process for government construction projects. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/activists-launch-signature-campaign-abolition-35-ncpo-orders/ NCPO order no. 3/2558 that empowers the military to summon a person for questioning and detain the person for seven days without charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Srikcir said: https://ilaw.or.th/node/4968 Many of the announcements and orders were issued during the NCPO’s seizure of power in 2014 to suppress political resistance. Given that there has been no attempt to sabotage the military takeover, they are no longer necessary. Many of the announcements and orders sought to deprive people of their rights and liberties to prevent political resistance during the time of the military takeover. As our country has returned to its normal state, the NCPO should restore the rights and liberties that they had taken away to the people as well. https://prachatai.com/english/node/7555 The [22 civil society organisations] network said that there are 35 orders which urgently need to be abolished such as: NCPO Head Order 3/2015, the ban on public gatherings of five people or more; NCPO Head Order 13/2016, the crackdown on influential figures; and NCPO Head Order 9/2016, the exemption from the EIA process for government construction projects. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/activists-launch-signature-campaign-abolition-35-ncpo-orders/ NCPO order no. 3/2558 that empowers the military to summon a person for questioning and detain the person for seven days without charge Spot on Srikcir. The junta is still going around with their harassment even weeks after the election. Plain clothes officers have again reappeared at Ubon Ratchathani University in the Northeast. Political scientist was visited by special branch. High school students were visited after their artful display. The constitution allows demonstration which the NCPO order strictly restrict. These orders got to go or nothing has change with these heavy handed action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 8:47 AM, Puchaiyank said: Elected officials trying to wrestle power from an entrenched military leadership could lead to some interesting confrontations... Let's hope they keep the discourse civil and that violence does not erupt... The best opportunity has passed to wrestle the power away from the entrenched military leadership. That opportunity was the election. They need to act quickly before the option of violence becomes the only real option. There is still time, but it is slipping away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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