webfact Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 More than 6,000 foreigners prosecuted for taking Thai jobs and illegal working in the last year The head of the Thai Department of Employment has said that more than 6,000 foreigners have been working illegally and taking jobs reserved for Thais in the last 12 months. Nearly one and a half thousand employers have been fined for employing them. Some 41 million baht has been collected in fines. The crackdown over the last year mainly involves migrant workers from neighboring countries though more than 300 came from further afield. Bangkok - especially the Huay Kwang and Sukhumvit areas - were targeted along with many provinces where migrant labor is high. Petcharat Sin-uay said that these included Samut Sakhon, Pathum Thani, Phuket, Surat Thai, Songkhla and Chiang Mai in particular. Illegal migrants were particularly selling food and drink on the streets and items in shops - jobs reserved exclusively for Thai nationals. Some 6,647 people were fined for not having work permits or working in restricted jobs from July 1st 2018 to June 18th of this year. In all the DoE investigated 417,546 cases. Some 1,420 employers were busted and fines totaled 41 million baht over the last year were collected from both employers and employees. Top of the list for breaking the law were people from Myanmar with 4,250 cases followed by Cambodia 1,050, Laos 665 and Vietnam 349. The remainder came from other countries unspecified in the Spring News story. Source: Spring News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-06-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 "Thai employers continue to use slave labour" may be a more appropriate headline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 And are they currently still working in Thailand in similar jobs or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 so while the workers get deported the employers just get a fine.. amazes me how a system like this developed in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said: so while the workers get deported the employers just get a fine.. amazes me how a system like this developed in the first place Yeah if u pull this shit in germany and you employ someone illegally you get taken away for tax evasion and many other things. Here you get a fine less than the weekly salary, unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Like in CM for so many years now, the Thai yai were infiltrating by buying their own carts and then selling at the food vendor stalls at night. Thye actually took some serious business away from the Thai, but no one cared. To name a few stalls they were like selling pork and rice with broth with egg, or little barbequed surimi, or pork things, and then if you went to some day markets, they actually had rented stalls and were selling food. If it was any white or different foreign person, we would have been racked up a long time ago. Which brings to mind. In BKK around China town area, there was an older white foreigner making som tum on the street from his cart. Wonder what happened to him? He was actually on the news as a fun thing as made ok som tum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: More than 6,000 foreigners prosecuted for taking Thai jobs Does this mean that 6000+ unemployed Thais now got their jobs back? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Bet your life those same 6,000 are back in the country working again after passing through Thailand porous borders with the 'correct' immigration fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtank Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Those pesky foreigners again. Doing the jobs that Thais are too lazy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Their neighbours are coming in illegal and doing those jobs.if caught you see them on those buses or cages leaving Thailand to come back later.being going on for years this type of trade.i know one from Burma who has being in Chiangmai for years but she keeps a low profile about this subject and does not want talk about itSent from my SM-T580 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutofSiam Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ThomasThBKK said: Yeah if u pull this shit in germany and you employ someone illegally you get taken away for tax evasion and many other things. Here you get a fine less than the weekly salary, unbelievable. That's because Germany doesn't want the migrants to work for money; they just give it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, OutofSiam said: That's because Germany doesn't want the migrants to work for money; they just give it to them. Given that the future will include a guaranteed income for all, independent of work, I'm not sure why you're complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, GeorgeCross said: so while the workers get deported the employers just get a fine.. amazes me how a system like this developed in the first place it's hope that they can potentially get fined again in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YTP Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Illegal migrants were particularly selling food and drink on the streets and items in shops - jobs reserved exclusively for Thai nationals. Yes, reserved for the selfish food carts that use and abuse public property for tax-free income. Some of these guys make a lot of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 My question is can the employer get away with paying a lower wage,or can the employer not attract Thai's to do the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 will they be arresting Thais coming back when deported from Australia and Korea for working illegally? They just blacklist them in other countries, they don't charge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 and still service is an unknown word in this country that claims almost no unemployment and protects jobs for thai only... open XENOPHOBIA that should be enforced in our home countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartiniMan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'm finding it hard to understand why they wouldn't want to fix the system so that they can benefit from this economic stimulus of migrant workers As long as its legal and taxed we can build more parks and recreational areas of which there is next to non... What a novel idea - I wonder if anyone else has ever done that in their country? I wouldnt know I've never travelled, had an education or watched a documentary in my life yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, MartiniMan said: I'm finding it hard to understand why they wouldn't want to fix the system so that they can benefit from this economic stimulus of migrant workers As long as its legal and taxed we can build more parks and recreational areas of which there is next to non... What a novel idea - I wonder if anyone else has ever done that in their country? I wouldnt know I've never travelled, had an education or watched a documentary in my life yet... But Thais employing them dont pay taxes, nor do the workers, they send their money mostly back home... In a real country you can do this yes indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 You can easily add two zeros to this figure; guess who is working on the rice fields and mills? Illegally hired Burmese, Cambodians and Laotians working for a fraction of the government's dictated salary, no protection, insurance - nothing. Only possible because the Thais are too lazy to do certain jobs while the official Thailand is just too bureaucratic in granting work and stay visas with insurance on a "one stop level". The employers of such people should be fined a hundred times more so the pressure to facilitate the lack of human resource would be coming from the employers. Pathetic ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I see hordes of Indians openly working in South Pattaya, possibly because they can blend in more easily than us orang putihs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 There are around 2 million foreigners in Thailand with the great, great majority being laborers from Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia. 6000 represents 0.3% of 2 million. I expect the "real" number of foreigners working illegally in Thailand is much higher than 0.3%....and that 0.3% is just a token number to show the immigration police are at least catching a token few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: so while the workers get deported the employers just get a fine.. amazes me how a system like this developed in the first place Thai jails are not big enough to hold all the illegal bosses of companies employing illegal immigrants. They just get a fine which suits the government coffers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkg Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: The head of the Thai Department of Employment has said that more than 6,000 foreigners have been working illegally and taking jobs reserved for Thais in the last 12 months. Nearly one and a half thousand employers have been fined for employing them. Some 41 million baht has been collected in fines. 41,000,000 baht / 6000 foreigners 6800 baht fine for each offence. That's not going to deter employers from hiring illegals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: They'd find 6000 in a single night in Pattaya, touting suits and other junk, carving kebabs and running restaurants. What about the cheese makers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, nkg said: 41,000,000 baht / 6000 foreigners 6800 baht fine for each offence. That's not going to deter employers from hiring illegals. Just a little over the funds for a dead foreigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 One therefore must assume either the pay is so low, Thais will not do the job, OR Thais are so goddam lazy that actually working is not in their mindset. Either way I bet THE FOREIGNERS do a better job that Thais can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Employers often have enough wealth to pass envelopes or use political pressure so they don't get as severe a penalty as the employee. Really hard to see why an employer would want to hire someone that brings less benefit to their organization but that is how Thailand's leadership has chosen to strengthen their business sector. They are always thinking of the big picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Sydebolle said: The employers of such people should be fined a hundred times more so the pressure to facilitate the lack of human resource would be coming from the employers. Pathetic ........ Only thing is, guess where all those cash fines go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Orton Rd said: will they be arresting Thais coming back when deported from Australia and Korea for working illegally? They just blacklist them in other countries, they don't charge them. Nah, they just go back to the rub and tug jobs they left, here in the first place, for less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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