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1 minute ago, Lenny Jones said:

A rotten taxi structure in Thailand

When added all together Bangkok has one of the best public transport systems in a the world. Buses go everywhere, Taxis are reasonably priced and they are everywhere. Sure there are none when it rains but that is normal. Driver doesn't want to go where you want say thank you and wait for the next one.. There are lots.

 

Try getting a taxi in Melbourne as an example. I had to run to catch one at a red light.

 

In Bangkok we are spoilt and assume it is normal.

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3 minutes ago, Lenny Jones said:

A rotten taxi structure in Thailand is not a problem.  It is an indication of a much bigger problem.

 

A weak ineffective government - "supported" by a useless, corrupt police force has allowed the evolvement of a massive criminally-based industry.

 

It becomes a joke when you read headlines about the number of illegal taxis in operation but no arrests, the common knowledge about meters never being used, drivers carrying weapons, refusing fares and lethal turf warfares.

 

General nuisance and his short side-kick said FIVE years ago they would clean stuff like this up 5 years ago.

 

Annnnnd - - - - - ?

Ha ha! I like that phrase.

Perhaps even 'his short side-stand', as he appears to be 'supporting' the nuisance factor?

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Taxi guys, just keep on refusing fares and no meter. Goodbye to you and hello Grab! Competition is a good thing.

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Just now, jerojero said:

Taxi guys, just keep on refusing fares and no meter. Goodbye to you and hello Grab! Competition is a good thing.

Agreed.

Unfortunately, competition here means the established group will lose out, leading to a loss of face and therefore violence, as we've seen already.

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9 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

When added all together Bangkok has one of the best public transport systems in a the world. Buses go everywhere, Taxis are reasonably priced and they are everywhere. Sure there are none when it rains but that is normal. Driver doesn't want to go where you want say thank you and wait for the next one.. There are lots.

 

Try getting a taxi in Melbourne as an example. I had to run to catch one at a red light.

 

In Bangkok we are spoilt and assume it is normal.

And then what when you get out of the capital are all cities just as spoilt relitive to their size and population?

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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“Instead of enforcing the law on the wrongdoers, the LTD went ahead to amend regulations to benefit the foreign investors who broke the law and created disunity among Thais,” he added.

It is this sort of thinking that scares the shit out of me, and not only in Thailand.

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9 hours ago, observer90210 said:

They have contributed to give a disastrous image of Thailand towards foreign visitors who bring in good money. If the government gives in to the Official Thai Taxi mafia, it means that the government is weak and is protecting a bunch of mafia minded criminals who run the official Taxi/bike and tuktuks in Thailand.

 

Let GRAB operate in peace ... with GRAB, taxi cannot cheat customer....remember that.

 

Meanwhile, people in Thailand want and need to get around as efficiently and conveniently as they can.  


There is still a very big need for mass transit of smaller type vehicles in many locations, some sort of mini bus/truck style that is safe, organized and fair.  
To continue this roaming ant - traffic jamming, pollution, unsafe, uncomfortable accident causing madness is just plain stupidity and lacks vision and leadership.   

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13 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

Oh dear.

We don't like competition, says the taxi mafia of Thailand.

tough luck, boys. 

 

With regards to the cabbies - It's not even competition in this case: Grab is a service which any regular cab driver can use. And in fact, I'd wager most people use Grab Taxi rather than the more expensive GrabCar, Limo etc. The flag fall, rate, and everything is the same. Even the off peak booking fee (20 Baht) is the same as the Radio taxi fee. I suspect that these cabbies are just not aware of what Grab is and think it's like Uber or something.

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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Instead of enforcing the law on the wrongdoers, the LTD went ahead to amend regulations to benefit the foreign investors who broke the law and created disunity among Thais,” he added.

Whereas moto taxi drivers rioting and killing people passing by is fine and dandy, eh..

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56 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Grab drivers can refuse fares just as normal taxi drivers can if they are not close or don't want to go there. 

Thats true, I have had a number of declines after they have already accepted the routing. 

 

Still, I find Grab to be a godsend especially if I want to do a longer journey such as Cheang Wattana.

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58 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

When added all together Bangkok has one of the best public transport systems in a the world. Buses go everywhere, Taxis are reasonably priced and they are everywhere. Sure there are none when it rains but that is normal. Driver doesn't want to go where you want say thank you and wait for the next one.. There are lots.

 

Try getting a taxi in Melbourne as an example. I had to run to catch one at a red light.

 

In Bangkok we are spoilt and assume it is normal.

Try Ho Chi Minh. They might not have a BTS or MRT, but taxis are easy to flag down or order on their Grab app. They have Grab bikes everywhere too. Prices are shown before. Was a real pleasure compared to Bangkok. 

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32 minutes ago, SABloke said:

With regards to the cabbies - It's not even competition in this case: Grab is a service which any regular cab driver can use. And in fact, I'd wager most people use Grab Taxi rather than the more expensive GrabCar, Limo etc. The flag fall, rate, and everything is the same. Even the off peak booking fee (20 Baht) is the same as the Radio taxi fee. I suspect that these cabbies are just not aware of what Grab is and think it's like Uber or something.

I don't see an option for Grab Taxi or Limo on the App.  Only Grab Car or Grab Motorcycle.

 

5 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Try Ho Chi Minh. They might not have a BTS or MRT, but taxis are easy to flag down or order on their Grab app. They have Grab bikes everywhere too. Prices are shown before. Was a real pleasure compared to Bangkok. 

Using Google Maps, the local buses were easy to use if going anywhere along their routes.  The money takers on the bus were quite helpful with directions and where to get off.  

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1 hour ago, ZeVonderBearz said:

And then what when you get out of the capital are all cities just as spoilt relitive to their size and population?

Just like any country the availability of taxis in non urban areas will depend on demand. If demand is there so will the taxis be. 

 

You can't simply flag down a taxi in say Ipatinga Brazil or Oxford Uk or  Surrey BC Canada.

 

If decides to live in a quiet town one has to expect the downside of quiet as well as any upside.

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26 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Try Ho Chi Minh. They might not have a BTS or MRT, but taxis are easy to flag down 

Yep. same all over Bangkok, even out in the burbs.

 

But they might not want to go downtown BKK. The key is to plan a journey. My running mates have discovered that flitting between Central Department/Tesco Lotus store locations works. Then you get to one that is close enough to downtown and bingo.

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12 hours ago, Benroon said:

I downloaded the Grab app - only it appears in thai. You can change the language each time you use it (in parts) but it reverts back when you leave the app so its a <deleted> nuisance. When I raised it with them they replied saying they are aware and are working on their 'valuable international customers' - until they do its next to kin useless!

 

Same for everyone ?

No problem with english on my iPhone. 

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