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Police chief transferred for allowing prostitution in Pattaya, foreign bar owners deported and blacklisted

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15 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

There are no prints on a Thai ID card to my knowledge.  Did you look at your wife's?  Maybe in some kind of chip in the card?  Never noticed.  When I was involved with that stuff the girls traded ID's all the time.  So never thought they had prints or anyone checked them.  

No fingerprints are recorded on a thai I'd chip. 

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19 hours ago, Trexpat said:

Speechless, I really do not know what to make of this. What happens now when social media starts publishing more evidence of this going on. 

 

One thought crosses my mind, do the sacked Police get the 'deposits' back they paid to secure these positions?

How long have you been here? Ever tried getting a deposit back from a Thai?

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The more interesting question to ask is why did they stop at only 1 bar and did not check other bars?
 
They were already there, had the manpower, but yet that was it.
 
Surely they could see half naked girls with asses hanging out next door and across the road, 
If they had a tip-off that this bar had underage girls, then they should rightly focus on that. Other bars are regularly checked but presumably ensure they only employ girls aged 18+.

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Just one bar?????????? LMAO
Do you know of other bars employing underage prostitutes?

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2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

If they had a tip-off that this bar had underage girls, then they should rightly focus on that. Other bars are regularly checked but presumably ensure they only employ girls aged 18+.

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Presumably checked by the very same police that was removed from active duty , so most likely have a lot more to it then just that 😉👍

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I am not an English native speaker so I may be wrong, but it seems to me that many members here give to "prostitution" a different meaning that the "official" one.
 
Most online dictionaries say something like:
"Occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment"
 
According to this definition, there is IMHO no prostitution in agogos and in the huge majority of Pattaya's bars. Exceptions could be the like as in Soi 6.
Correct. Most bars, gogos and massage places stick to the terms of their licence. Paying for sexual services is not in itself illegal in Thailand

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1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Do you know of other bars employing underage prostitutes?

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Was the raid solely aimed at underage ? Or prostitution?

 

if solely aimed at underage , the only way to know is to check every girl, not to assume all others are legal. 

 

In this bar they found one, so highly unlikely this 1 bar was in business and focusing on employing underage girls .

 

 

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Was the raid solely aimed at underage ? Or prostitution?
 
if solely aimed at underage , the only way to know is to check every girl, not to assume all others are legal. 
 
In this bar they found one, so highly unlikely this 1 bar was in business and focusing on employing underage girls .
 
 
As I said, bars are regularly checked. Soi 6 bars have been raided many times and most have stopped providing on-site rooms. This bar had obviously upset some people which is why it was targeted. There is nothing illegal about employing scantily clad girls in bars.

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2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

As I said, bars are regularly checked. Soi 6 bars have been raided many times and most have stopped providing on-site rooms. This bar had obviously upset some people which is why it was targeted. There is nothing illegal about employing scantily clad girls in bars.

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I am guessing you do not know what you talking about at all. All provide on site service , but rooms are “rented “ to girls on monthly basis and other guests , girl takes you to her room.

 

yeah clearly bar upset someone and clearly it was not from the local authorities and clearly that someone who was upset knew what to do, just as that someone and co has gone into hiding . 

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2 hours ago, mikebell said:

Most of the bars are reputed to be owned by the police anyway.

Where did you get that myth from? Most of the bars are owned by farangs - Brits in particular.

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19 hours ago, observer90210 said:

In China a 14 year old can have sex with an adult.

So is it illegal between 2 14 year olds?

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Correct. Most bars, gogos and massage places stick to the terms of their licence. Paying for sexual services is not in itself illegal in Thailand

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But nevertheless still need to prepare brown envelopes. 

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1 hour ago, WinnieTheKhwai said:

 

They didn't say that.  Thaivisa and an associated blog wrote that, but it was fake news, as so often.

 

The statement after the Walking Street check was that bars were found to follow regulations.  That's very different from claiming that there's no prostitution, but some blog writers don't care.. 

IME there is no prostitution takes place in Walking Street. For the prostitution to take place in bars and gogos they would need onsite short time rooms. Most if not all of these have disappeared from Walking Street. The actual prostitution takes place in the privacy of a hotel room, which isn't illegal in Thailand or a number of Western countries.

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