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BANGKOK 20 July 2019 14:39
Briggsy

Border bounce with denial of entry stamp

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"Computer records are not as available, accessible and complete as some posters here make out"

 

I've often wondered about this, how (if at all) is a denial of entry logged into their system? We know they have several different databases; maybe a denial of entry won't be shown in the list of latest entries that a front line IO gets to see? It would obviously make sense to show it there, but then again, sense is in short supply in the officialdom.

 

Interesting report.

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Posted (edited)

Ever thought about getting PR, you've been here a long time.

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18 hours ago, Briggsy said:

The immigration officer inevitably saw my denial of entry at Bangkok followed by an entry stamp at Nong Khai.

He and his colleagues were mystified as to why I was denied entry with a valid visa 2 months before. They were equally confused as to the written reason on the stamp "ไม่มีปัจจัยยังชีพ" - no means of supporting himself. They had no record on their computer.

 

So, they passed me up the chain to the lieutenant (?) who asked why I was denied entry at Bangkok (Suwannaphum). I told him what Immigration had told me. That is "I had spent more than 6 months in one year in Thailand [on tourist visas]". The lieutenant was even more confused and turned to the colonel (?) and asked, "Is that a law?" The colonel said, "Do you mean 6 entries?" The lieutenant confirmed, "No, 6 months."

 

I was passed up the chain to the colonel who was also at a loss to understand Bangkok's actions. The colonel eventually said, "Well he has a visa. Stand there while we take your photo," and he stamped me in. He also strongly advised me (3 times!) to get a new passport and then I wouldn't have any further problems.

Very amusing account, and speaks volumes about what seems to be going on at immigration in 2019.

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The lieutenant was even more confused and turned to the colonel (?) and asked, "Is that a law?" The colonel said, "Do you mean 6 entries?" The lieutenant confirmed, "No, 6 months."

 

And all this was in the English language?

 

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9 hours ago, scorecard said:

Ever thought about getting PR, you've been here a long time.

Have to work three years and only 100 from your country given it a year, can take years to get.

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6 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The lieutenant was even more confused and turned to the colonel (?) and asked, "Is that a law?" The colonel said, "Do you mean 6 entries?" The lieutenant confirmed, "No, 6 months."

 

And all this was in the English language?

 

It's not beyond the wit of man that Briggsy understands simple Thai phrases, such as shown in the quote 🙂

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15 minutes ago, simon43 said:

.... and it's stories like this that make many of us nervous about entering the country after an overseas trip, even with a valid visa.  This uncertainly is surely leading to decisions to leave Thailand (as I have), or for new expats to not even consider coming to Thailand. 

I have been here on a Non-Imm. with annual extensions. (Often refered to a Retirement Visa). I am not worried as I comply with the law, even though it may be confusing or inconsistently applied.

 

Decisions to leave Thailand are a personal matter and the experience of others has no bearing on my decision making to stay or leave, particularly from a person who has already left.

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5 minutes ago, simon43 said:

It's not beyond the wit of man that Briggsy understands simple Thai phrases, such as shown in the quote 🙂

We don't know that...

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21 hours ago, Briggsy said:

3. Computer records are not as available, accessible and complete as some posters here make out. High-level permission may be required to gain access. (not surprised at that)

Yes they are - your denial was not put into the system - there is nothing unusual about that with these kind of denials at the Airport

 

I know for a fact that the head Officer at the Kanchanaburi border has the Password for the main Immigration database so I would imagine all senior officers at every checkpoint throughout Thailand does also - it would make sense that they do have it

 

The Officers there were confused because there is no such law regarding the 6 months in a year and your denial was not put in the system

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13 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

Yes they are - your denial was not put into the system - there is nothing unusual about that with these kind of denials at the Airport

 

I know for a fact that the head Officer at the Kanchanaburi border has the Password for the main Immigration database so I would imagine all senior officers at every checkpoint throughout Thailand does also - it would make sense that they do have it

 

The Officers there were confused because there is no such law regarding the 6 months in a year and your denial was not put in the system

There was a good few years ago but it was taken off the books. Maybe the word hasn't filtered down yet to some areas.

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Denial of entry is not even put in the remark section of IO. These guys at airport or Poi Pet make up their own set of rules. Sadly.  

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