rooster59 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 French man, 80, dies in fall from 28th floor of Sukhumvit condo By The Nation An 80-year-old French man fell to his death from his room on the 28th floor of a condominium building on Soi Sukhumvit 61. Police identified him as as Cariou Ambroise Jean. It was not known when he fell down. A security officer found the body at the back of the condo at 7am. His Japanese wife told police that she was not home on Friday night and found out about her husband's death when she returned on Saturday morning. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30371960 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-06-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Hope she has a water tight alibi RIP . Hope he had a good life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Me think that Thailand can easily claim itself the dubious honors as the capital of balcony diving of the world seeing the excessive number of people meeting their demise this way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Soon have to have fully enclosed balconies on all floors above ground floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius verus Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 We rarely get any follow up to these condo "suicides". No CCTV? no visitors in the room? Always a suicide or accident. If a bar girl dies in one of these situations police swarm on the scene and soon enough have a farang suspect in custody. Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HampiK Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lucius verus said: We rarely get any follow up to these condo "suicides". No CCTV? no visitors in the room? Always a suicide or accident. If a bar girl dies in one of these situations police swarm on the scene and soon enough have a farang suspect in custody. Money. I don't think a bar girl can be alone in the condo! So yes there should mostly another person involved. The Owner or renter of the condo there is a much bigger chance of he was alone. But of course it's always easy and confortable to make Thailand be the problem for everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lucius verus said: We rarely get any follow up to these condo "suicides". No CCTV? no visitors in the room? Always a suicide or accident. If a bar girl dies in one of these situations police swarm on the scene and soon enough have a farang suspect in custody. Money. It is rare to get "follow up" on any criminal cases here including balcony falls. You need to understand the power dynamic in the relationship between the police and the press. Journalists here simply parrot what the police press release states. They often follow the police and "rescue services" around and simply report on the initial scene provided the police give them the go-ahead and a statement/press release. The press here generally DO NOT go out and seek those involved in the incident to report their version. It may conflict with the police version of events and the press do not want to spoil their relationship with the police. The police here raise revenue through all parties they interact with, victims, criminals, innocent suspects, businesses in their jurisdiction, householders in their jurisdiction, dead people. They often close incidents through compensation payments or bribes not to investigate. They do not want their world to be transparent, in fact, just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 He landed a long way out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius verus Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Briggsy said: It is rare to get "follow up" on any criminal cases here including balcony falls. You need to understand the power dynamic in the relationship between the police and the press. Journalists here simply parrot what the police press release states. They often follow the police and "rescue services" around and simply report on the initial scene provided the police give them the go-ahead and a statement/press release. The press here generally DO NOT go out and seek those involved in the incident to report their version. It may conflict with the police version of events and the press do not want to spoil their relationship with the police. The police here raise revenue through all parties they interact with, victims, criminals, innocent suspects, businesses in their jurisdiction, householders in their jurisdiction, dead people. They often close incidents through compensation payments or bribes not to investigate. They do not want their world to be transparent, in fact, just the opposite. It used to be common practice for cops to go around smashing factory windows and then informing the owners there was a gang in the area robbing businesses. The owners (happily) handed over money every month for protection. One of these cops received a commendation for stamping out crime in the area. He was finally exposed when his wife was arrested for running an extortion racket herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, madmen said: He landed a long way out ! He started off a long way up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maejo Man Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, madmen said: He landed a long way out ! That was the first thing that I noticed, but the wife was conveniently away, which always seems to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, ezzra said: Me think that Thailand can easily claim itself the dubious honors as the capital of balcony diving of the world seeing the excessive number of people meeting their demise this way... 2 reasons: Foreigners who are have a big problem (health or financially) and think this is the only way out. Very low balconies which is a problem for people who are very drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maejo Man said: That was the first thing that I noticed, but the wife was conveniently away, which always seems to be the case. 2 hours ago, Briggsy said: It is rare to get "follow up" on any criminal cases here including balcony falls. You need to understand the power dynamic in the relationship between the police and the press. Journalists here simply parrot what the police press release states. They often follow the police and "rescue services" around and simply report on the initial scene provided the police give them the go-ahead and a statement/press release. The press here generally DO NOT go out and seek those involved in the incident to report their version. It may conflict with the police version of events and the press do not want to spoil their relationship with the police. The police here raise revenue through all parties they interact with, victims, criminals, innocent suspects, businesses in their jurisdiction, householders in their jurisdiction, dead people. They often close incidents through compensation payments or bribes not to investigate. They do not want their world to be transparent, in fact, just the opposite. So where is your proof that balcony falls are a criminal case? Yes it will be sometimes, but mostly sad people who don't see a way out of their problems or are have an accident while being dead drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, ezzra said: // people meeting their demise this way... 2 hours ago, Lucius verus said: We rarely get any follow up to these condo "suicides". // None of articles talk about "suicide". We still don't know what happened, if he felt, jumped, ... He landed on that wall, on which is a fence with spikes ! The body has been "torn" and must not be nice to see after such a fall and arrival. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, sanemax said: He started off a long way up Unless he had wings, what would that matter? Sloping building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: So where is your proof that balcony falls are a criminal case? Yes it will be sometimes, but mostly sad people who don't see a way out of their problems or are have an accident while being dead drunk You have completely misconstrued my post. My post is about the lack of transparency of police investigations (foul play or not) and the reasons for that. Nowhere did I intimate that foul play was at play in this case. Please calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moti24 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: His Japanese wife told police that she was not home on Friday night..... How convenient! RiP to the poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said: None of articles talk about "suicide". We still don't know what happened, if he felt, jumped, ... He landed on that wall, on which is a fence with spikes ! The body has been "torn" and must not be nice to see after such a fall and arrival. RIP. There does appear to be blood splattered on the wall, but as many have noted, this wall seems to be far away from the building. Perhaps the balconies extend far, or he jumped and did a swan dive. Being simply pushed over the edge or falling from the edge would seem not to result in the body being that far away from the building. *unless, of course two big guys threw him over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 To get to 80 and end like that? RiP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatPH Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Here in Philippines, foreigners don't fall from high height condos (yes we have them here too) so ..... Possibly suicide, however I often think there was some assistance in the 'fall'. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Soon have to have fully enclosed balconies on all floors above ground floor I think you'll find that most people who live above ground floor don't jump or fall, so the necessity for this seems illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Pattaya46 said: None of articles talk about "suicide". We still don't know what happened, if he felt, jumped, ... He landed on that wall, on which is a fence with spikes ! The body has been "torn" and must not be nice to see after such a fall and arrival. RIP. Yeah, I wondered about the step ladder and what two of the attendees were looking up at. I'm not a ghoul like some, but it looks very nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: 2 reasons: Foreigners who are have a big problem (health or financially) and think this is the only way out. Very low balconies which is a problem for people who are very drunk. You got that right, Some balconies are so short I don't even venture out on the deck lest a freak gust of wind sends me flying ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generealty Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 If the Thai construction standards demanded regular height balcony rails/walls then half of these falls/dives/pushes would not happen. It is so easy but why cant they see it. How can a person fall over a 1.2 meter high rail unless climb over or pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Not a nice way to end your days, whatever the cause it's sad to see the demise of an elderly gent! RIP Monsieur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Let's hope that if it was suicide , he did not change his mind half-way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, MJKT2014 said: I think you'll find that most people who live above ground floor don't jump or fall, so the necessity for this seems illogical. Risk Management , and there appears that there are a lot of balcony falls in Thailand even compared to NYC and other densely populated high rise cities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ExpatPH said: Here in Philippines, foreigners don't fall from high height condos (yes we have them here too) so ..... Possibly suicide, however I often think there was some assistance in the 'fall'. RIP Yes, never happens in the Philippines.............. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1100756/foreigner-found-dead-at-condo-garden-in-taguig-city https://www.philstar.com/nation/2019/03/23/1903735/2-koreans-american-fall-their-deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stropper Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 7 hours ago, ezzra said: Me think that Thailand can easily claim itself the dubious honors as the capital of balcony diving of the world seeing the excessive number of people meeting their demise this way... in thailand they report suicides, in aus especially the gold coast with its casino after they were getting up to 7 flyers a week they no longer report it in the news on how the landing went, suicides are no longer reported, beleive me i have had 7 friends bale out there ! just so they can make more people penniless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, stropper said: in thailand they report suicides, in aus especially the gold coast with its casino after they were getting up to 7 flyers a week they no longer report it in the news on how the landing went, suicides are no longer reported, beleive me i have had 7 friends bale out there ! just so they can make more people penniless The evidenced research for that claim is located where? (up to 7 flyers per week?) Suicides are reported differently in Australia they rarely mention the mode used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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