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"Rot Daeng" step up their war with "Grab" in Chiang Mai

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

More than 200 Red Song Thaew or "Rot Daeng" drivers attended a meeting in Chiang Mai yesterday to protest against plans to legalize Grab operations in the northern Thai city. 

The march of change is not the friend of those who believe the world doesn't change.

The only constant in this world - is change. 

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3 hours ago, Vacuum said:

like one song thaew with 10 passengers compared to 10 taxis... transporting one person each?

Like 20 songteaws driving around  with nobody in it , or a grab car who drives from drop of point to  new existing customers ?

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4 hours ago, sanemax said:

Probably as much to do with the new buses , as much as grab

I've seen loads of the new blue buses around CM in my trips to the city never with more than 5 passengers,all foreigners.

 

Thais in Bangkok are very bus oriented but in CM you are trying to change habits of a lifetime of catching songteaws and tuk tuks.

I guess they do business from the airport but must be losing money hand over fist.

 

IMO they made a big mistake with the big buses trying to manouvre around narrow sois.Buses should have been half the size and doubled the journeys.

Expecting peopole to wait for buses when tuk tuks and songteaws cruise around empty is a temptation not to wait for a bus

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Agree.  The current CM buses are much too large. 16-20 passenger vans, with some luggage space, would serve more people.  I suspect the buses were gotten very cheaply.

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I grabbed a handful last night to stop my rot setting in🤔 

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20 hours ago, Vacuum said:

like one song thaew with 10 passengers compared to 10 taxis... transporting one person each?

You made a good pertinent point.

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Only 200 out of 2600 attended? Hardly 8%.

Can't take this serious, but talking is better than fighting.

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21 hours ago, webfact said:

They think they provide a great service and that it is sufficient for the city's needs.

Some might, but too many do not.  
 

21 hours ago, webfact said:

Earlier reports suggest that many traditional drivers have seen their previous daily takings plummet from a handy 1,200 baht pre-Grab to a measly 300 baht now. 

 

This is what happens when you cheat people.  They stop using the service or stop buying the product.  

Too many red trucks clogging the streets, stopping suddenly in the middle of the road, traffic jamming and black smoke belching, hot and uncomfortable.
Sell your truck and join Grab.  Happy days.

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15 hours ago, chingmai331 said:

Agree.  The current CM buses are much too large. 16-20 passenger vans, with some luggage space, would serve more people.  I suspect the buses were gotten very cheaply.

Bigger the price tag, bigger the kick back ?

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15 hours ago, chingmai331 said:

Agree.  The current CM buses are much too large. 16-20 passenger vans, with some luggage space, would serve more people.  I suspect the buses were gotten very cheaply.

There are also smaller mini buses 

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2 minutes ago, DonDoRondo said:

These things absolutely choke Old Town.  Driving around at 10 miles an hour, stopping

alongside  anyone walking on the sidewalk, then accelerating off leaving a

contrail of gray/black exhaust.

Just nasty. 

 

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Not forgetting putting their foot down and staying in first gear whilst speeding off 

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On 7/2/2019 at 10:31 AM, Just1Voice said:

Maybe if they offered better service, and stopped trying to rip off their customers every chance they get, they wouldn't have this problem.

 

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Rot daeng are not ripping off their customers, they have invested in their Isuzu D-Max converted and were not getting an unreasonable return.

 

The drivers are mostly elderly, their vehicles too, pollution and the environment is an issue.

 

Tuk tuk too.

 

The grab vehicles and their drivers are young. I am not convinced that the Grab business model is successful in the medium-term at the rates Grab charges for the drivers.

 

We need to be looking electric. And we need an integrated system that includes public transport as well as private with solutions that could include pedestrian only streets and bicycle lanes.

 

The economy of that smart city relies on its infrastructure, of which transport is key.

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They say that they have been legally serving the community and paying taxes for decades. They think they provide a great service and that it is sufficient for the city's needs.

Hmmm ... many people would disagree. If there is a big demand for Grab then obviously there is a problem and the hitherto services need to up their game/service. You can't just cry and whine to the government that your mafia cartel business with crap service should just stay the same regardless. Also, I think you red cabs are in cartoon land when you talk about "legally serving the community and paying taxes for decades." 

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The customer base is different between each mode of transportation.

One customer is a tech-savy dial-up while the other is a stand-on-curb and wait.

No real relationship between the two.

I can't see why they can't co-exist while bringing more choice into the market.

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