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10 minutes ago, blackcab said:

Your first consideration should be how you are going to obtain permission to continuously live in the Kingdom.

 

What are your plans for Visas/Extensions of Stay?

That seems to be the biggest hurdle so far, my plan is an ED visa which is a total of 12 months if I get the proper extensions? 

 

They have a business where they rent out boxing rings and cover the areas in Lampang within a few hours each direction. Set it up, take it down. Drive to the next city and do this over again. That seems to be the main way the family supplements their income. The youngest daughter speaks English fairly well and said they looked into a work permit for me and that it is possible for them to help me get one. I'm still researching this myself as it's a bit of an obscure business. 

 

I've got alot of friends in Canada who would help me if I had to return home because I fell flat on my face in Thailand. I'm well known enough in my career here that there's alot of gyms that would be happy to hire me assuming I came back. 

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There must be some way to do it successfully as friends of mine have lived and fought in Phuket for years now. One of them for the last 4 years. I don't think he's doing it in an illegal way as he's traveling in and out to fight in China and Holland from Thailand. 

 

It's a nervous thing when I break it down in my head but I think that keeps me sharp in some regards. And considering I'm moving there for the opposite reason and lifestyle most people my age are headed there for I think I could pull it off. 

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1 hour ago, jackdd said:

Will they arrange a work permit for you?

Most people in this business probably don't have one, but if you don't make it legal you always have the risk that any day immigration police can come to arrest, deport and ban you from Thailand.

I would never put myself in the situation where that could happen. I don't intend to break any laws no matter how minor. Anything I will do over there will be done legally with the proper paperwork. 

 

I don't consume alcohol, I don't have lavish spending habits, no interest in bar girls, drugs or parties. Just looking for a simple life doing what I love. 

 

If me fighting professionally helps this family out in even the slightest positive way it will be completely worthwhile for me. I've spent too many years putting my own dreams on hold. It might seem silly to some but living in the middle of nowhere in Thailand with very little appeals to me in a big way. And I've always forged great relationships with the Thai's I've spent time with. 

 

My last trip outside Phuket a camp I was training at tried to give my fighter and I an air conditioned room for free because because I paid them double what they were supposed to receive from our fight purses. They wouldn't take no for an answer so we accepted the room.  I got up that night and went and slept back near the ring in the hut with the rest of them. They looked at me like I was absolutely insane and nothing was ever said about it. But they treated me differently after that. They understood I wasn't on a holiday for some instagram videos asn pictures. 

 

I'm hoping this type of mentality and relationship will help me in some positive way 

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Any books you folks would recommend I read on the subject? I'm sure there's some good ones about the good, bad and ugly involved 

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I am sure there are people who did not make such a planned exit to Thailand. 

 

I have met many bar/resort owners in the south who just run and jumped. Some are still at it, some are not.

 

The muay thai angle seems very strong, if you can get work in Canada if it does fail, surely the same can be said here.

 

You may as well give it your best shot and go with the flow, a lot of worriers and what iffers here but what will be, will be.

 

5 years in, planning the next 10, 5 months at a time. ( non O visa 90 days + 60 extension)

 

Best of luck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Mikisteel said:

I am sure there are people who did not make such a planned exit to Thailand. 

 

I have met many bar/resort owners in the south who just run and jumped. Some are still at it, some are not.

 

The muay thai angle seems very strong, if you can get work in Canada if it does fail, surely the same can be said here.

 

You may as well give it your best shot and go with the flow, a lot of worriers and what iffers here but what will be, will be.

 

5 years in, planning the next 10, 5 months at a time. ( non O visa 90 days + 60 extension)

 

Best of luck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really appreciate that. Thank you so much 🙏

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11 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Visa and healthcare should be your main focus...good luck!

That's definitely where I will put most of my focus considering Thai boxing isn't exactly the safest way to make money lol. Cuts and what not are part of it but Healthcare is important for anything more. My first fight in Thailand I got stitched up after my fight in the stadium and went home fine. Few days later I went to check in at the camp with the other fighters and decided to do some light clinch work on the bag. Accidentally brushed the bag once with my forehead and both my cuts got infected badly. Since then I've been diligent to say the least and have never traveled without health care

 

The visa seems to be the biggest headache involved and for this particular situation I find so many "different answers" on material I research. I really appreciate all of the insight.

 

I felt as though I may get my head chewed off by some posters as I'm not wealthy or with enough in the bank to retire on. Although I'm planning to move here to give myself what I consider to be a better life some may view it as me making a poor decision or one that is unwise. So I'm trying to reiterate the point I know it will be difficult. It's not going to be sunshine and rainbows all the time. I'm ok with that 

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2 minutes ago, wisperone said:

If you are going to work, you will need a work permit.  Good intentions won't cut it.

Generally speaking I know Muay Thai falls under an education visa. I'm finding different answers whether or not it can also get me a work visa. 

 

If the sport itself isn't enough to secure one maybe the ring rental business they have would be? 

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9 minutes ago, wisperone said:

If you are going to work, you will need a work permit.  Good intentions won't cut it.

Also I would have enough money selling my gym here to get an elite visa if it comes to that for me being able to stay long term 

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