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BANGKOK 23 July 2019 23:05
fhickson

Returning to CM - How has it changed?

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8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I must be living in a different Chiang Mai to some of the posters on this thread. I enjoy my life here. Good range of restaurants. Pick my times to be on the roads.

As for the air pollution, I button up my condo and turn on the air purifier and aircon. Wear a mask outdoors.

Chiang Rai is no different in the smoke season. It's an old problem driven by Thai farming practices.

It sounds like Elysium.  You have found the unicorn of life.  Glad to hear you are so happy.  Your words: Enjoy the restaurants, roads, and air pollution.  Congratulations. 

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18 hours ago, The Theory said:

diesel red cars). 

Worst rip offs in Thailand. Pattaya with its 10 baht fares is brilliant.

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9 minutes ago, mike787 said:

It sounds like Elysium.  You have found the unicorn of life.  Glad to hear you are so happy.  Your words: Enjoy the restaurants, roads, and air pollution.  Congratulations. 

Perhaps I am a glass half full person. KItes rise highest against the wind, not with it.

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39 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Chinese are here but seems less then Pattaya.  Minimal Arab and India visitors it seems.

Four months of smog is an insurmountable downside IMHO.

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And there is the intermittent uncertain challenge of the CM Immigration office to consider if planning on a long term stay.... 

Even the agents (office to office) vary & are unsure as to requirements; with a lot of conflicting advice/demands.....

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Four months of smog is an insurmountable downside IMHO.

I agree it is sad and bad.

OK for me to stay in Pattaya during that time or go back home for awhile which I did this year. See the grandkids and dodge the 60 year old women.

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9 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I like CM.  I come here often to get away from the more hectic buzz of Pattaya.

If a person is a do nothing, lazy and boring CM will seem the same.

But, so will many places.

I come here a lot I stay in a friends house off the 107.

I play golf

Go to the driving range

Go to the gym

Go swimming

Take mb rides in the mountains

Go to the movies

Go to the malls to eat or girl watch

Get massages

I can go on.

 

Also, as far as female company not nearly Pattaya, but do some searching and online there is enough for fun.

 

On the big picture my activities here are about the same as Pattaya.  

Not a big bar hangout person so any of that has zero impact on my life.

Also, there are more people now but they also have improved the infrastructure here over the past 5 years.

No problems on a motorbike.

 

Chinese are here but seems less then Pattaya.  Minimal Arab and India visitors it seems.

all that physical activity is going to be hard with the air pollution factor

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The good news is if you come now you will be able to see it 🤔

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I kinda am in a similar situation. I lived in CM for about 9 years and left with my wife 4 years ago. She's one of the Chinese I volunteered to remove from CM 😉 . Because I am in China this summer, I couldn't resist making a short visit back to my 2nd home. As much as I loved CM during the 9 years, I did see a continued deterioration of the quality of life. I was an avid bicyclist so breathing clean air was kinda of important to me. Perhaps if I was married to a Thai, I would have stuck it out longer, perhaps. I hope we will enjoy revisiting and reminiscing.

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Simple answer is this: Chiang Mai / Thailand used to be wonderful, now it's not. The worst thing is that the country has done it to itself.

Other countries in the region are rubbing their hands together and are happy to accept all the expats, travellers, etc. Thailand in general is done, look at Vietnam or Cambodia.

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Right!  Everywhere used to be wonderful, but now not. Population pressure, extra $$ for travel, migration due to war, disease, corruption, lack of a future and current lack of water combined to draw countless people towards urban areas.

 

Look around the outskirts of CM: San Sai, Doi Saket, Hang Dong and see the rice fields gone and ugly concrete housing estates popping up. The highway expansion of 121 will only contribute to this uncontrolled urbanization.

 

Go where to escape?  Ain't gonna happen except if v v rich.  Buy an island or 200 hectares in Hawaii, but in Asia just too many poor folks and too many shitty govt and monied leaders.  

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On 7/10/2019 at 11:58 PM, mike787 said:

Orange37 has nailed it right on.  CM is a hell hole.  Dirty, angry, crowded, polluted and polluted heavily in thick cancer causing smog 4-5 months guaranteed every year, etc...hope you like it enough to sacrifice your life.  Otherwise, its a great place to get some gas for a visit...

Complete rubbish, do you have any facts to back this ridiculous statement up ? 

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