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More Thais fined for not reporting foreigners at their addresses

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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Imposing fines in some cases will lead owners to be no to interested in renting to aliens

It's hardly an inconvenience to do is it, when it cost nothing to do and can be done online? Fining them has to be the best way to get them off their lazy <deleted>.

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2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

It's hardly an inconvenience is it, when it cost nothing to do and can be done online?

Would you please show me how the average owner of a single home who has visitors or relatives come to stay can do it online??

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1 minute ago, silverhawk_usa said:

Would you please show me how the average owner of a single home who has visitors or relatives come to stay can do it online??

Google it.

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42 minutes ago, jackdd said:

If you visit your in-laws, the house master of the house there has to report you, you can't report yourself.

They can do it by mail, then they don't have to visit the immigration office.

What if the relatives live in a small village and never venture out, By me staying there I am putting them in a position to be in trouble and cop a fine,  I will in future knock back their kind offer of a bed for the night due to the stupid Cronin rules in this country.

I do normally knock back their offer as I prefer a hotel with Aircon but my point still stands!.

 

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8 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:
1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Imposing fines in some cases will lead owners to be no to interested in renting to aliens

It's hardly an inconvenience to do is it, when it cost nothing to do and can be done online? Fining them has to be the best way to get them off their lazy <deleted>.

But don't most Thai landlords want to stay below the radar to avoid paying tax on rental income?

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10 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

It's hardly an inconvenience to do is it, when it cost nothing to do and can be done online? Fining them has to be the best way to get them off their lazy <deleted>.

 

Are you being payed by the government to post here?

 

Not only its a GREAT inconvenience, especially in the more remote places (even if done online one should first visit the immigration office that may be many miles away to ask for an account), Its a POINTLESS ACT that serves only to further drive away western presence here.

 

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32 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

I have lived in Thailand for almost 20 years on Work Permit and retirement visa's. Personally, this BS, now effects my decision to travel in Thailand. To report my presence at my mother in-laws house, which I built for a 3-7 day visit. It would require dragging my 86 year old mother-in-law on a 2-hour drive to the closest immigration office. Yes, we could have her place registered in the system, but again this is not so easy to do as internet is spotty at best upcountry. Not to mention, I then have to do upon my return. I could just ignore and no one would ever know, but as a honest person, I do not like ignoring even stupid laws.

Jomtien imm. dont require a TM30. If I was you, I wouldnt worry about going to mum in laws. Who will Know?  But if it really bothers you, perhaps you could set up the online reporting in mum in laws name and report yourself before you go using your own device. 

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14 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

But don't most Thai landlords want to stay below the radar to avoid paying tax on rental income?

Do they pay tax on rentals. I doubt Thai Immigration liaise with Thai Inland Revinue 

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3 minutes ago, LongTang said:

Not only its a GREAT inconvenience, especially in the more remote places (even if done online one should first visit the immigration office

Check your facts. I believe an account can be set up online. No need to visit their office.

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2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Check your facts. I believe an account can be set up online. No need to visit their office.

Isn't it illegal or at least very unsportsmanlike to check facts on Thai Visa?

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So how long can you stay at a thai friends house without them reporting It 1 hour 3 hours 4 hours 6 hours sleep or stay awake 10 minutes 20 minutes 

What which one

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8 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Isn't it illegal or at least very unsportsmanlike to check facts on Thai Visa?

Just for you Marc.

 

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Using the link mentioned above. https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/

Took one calendar month for me to receive the user name and password - registered successfully and confirmed email address successfully. Got to the message saying "registration requires IO approval within seven business days". Just under four weeks later received the email with user name and password. Logged on and changed password successfully.

 

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11 minutes ago, phka said:

So how long can you stay at a thai friends house without them reporting It 1 hour 3 hours 4 hours 6 hours sleep or stay awake 10 minutes 20 minutes 

What which one

The TM30 says: คนต่างด้าวพักอยู่ - where the alien is staying.


I'd assume (dangerous) it's staying as in overnight sleeping, but who knows? If you left at 3am after visiting and having a party, is that staying?

I suppose we could be back to the 'at the discretion of the IO' again?

 

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1 hour ago, jackdd said:

If you visit your in-laws, the house master of the house there has to report you, you can't report yourself.

They can do it by mail, then they don't have to visit the immigration office.

Do all immigration offices accept reports by mail?

I've read posts when people have been told they won't accept their 90 day report by mail, for example. If push came to shove, don't you need the signed receipt at the bottom of the TM30 to be able to put in your passport?

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