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More Thais fined for not reporting foreigners at their addresses

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33 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

It is a very clever plan, actually.

 

Foreigners must be reported. For that owner's ID and rental agreement must be presented, which state monthly rental amount. This data is then passed to revenue department to check if owners are paying 12.5% tax on the rental income. Most aren't and I've seen a sudden surge of condos for sale with tenant, many urgently. I also know of cases of people fined upwards of half a million baht for renting out without paying taxes, which all started with a TM30 report. Interesting times.

There is no requirement for the owner to show a rental contract, its blue book and ID. The 12.5% tax was only ever levied on land office registered leases and will no longer exsist, being replaced with the new land taxes.

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how are they fined if the guest is on a 30 day visa on arrival which nearly everyone is

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6 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

This law has been around for years. Why do foreigners continue to complain about Thailand yet refuse to leave?

Yes that right, I recall my wife (then GF) doing a TM30 6 years ago when I first moved into her house.

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10 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

This law has been around for years. Why do foreigners continue to complain about Thailand yet refuse to leave?

Many have but continue to bash here like the sad fukers they really are. 

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1 hour ago, Call said:

TM 30 is an mess, almost impossible to follow. I would be very happy if this could be cleared out once for all.

Is it possible ThaiVisa can talk to someone top ranking Immigration officer, with no money in mind. It´s not an easy task 😉

Because what I have heard, the TM30 is just for the first (!) address entering the country! And have to be done everytime, even if you are on work permit, retirement or marrried visa. Also have come to my knowledge, if you return to same address and are the legal owner, you do not need to register! This could help us living in buildings, with legal foreign title.

As mentioned, it is a mess and some really high ranking officials should clearly specify the rules, by the law. Not by the likes from individual Immigration officers around Thailand. Because, we all know this is an income for people working within Thai Immigration. 

Its not whether its required, it is required by law. Its whether the local immigration office will check if it has been done before they process an extension or 90 day report. 

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26 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Its not whether its required, it is required by law. Its whether the local immigration office will check if it has been done before they process an extension or 90 day report. 

Don't go to the Immigration office to do a 90 day report and go home for an O-A every other year.  Solved!

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22 minutes ago, lkv said:

Note that you must not complain, according to some posters.😂

Complaining is fine.  Complaining about things one has no control over or that don't exist makes little sense.  I don't get checked at my 90 day report because I have a taxi driver do my report and last week at my yearly retirement extension they didn't ask me for one and never have.  

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36 minutes ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

I left, and that was after 34 years in Thailand, most years on Non-B and work permit, some periods employing 3000 Thais in my companies.

Obviously not successfully as you left and run back to the bosom of Mother Socialist - and worse still blaming others for your ineptitude- are you related to the Trump

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I've already been offered discounts if I come back from women. Unheard of!! The expats that stay are going to be in high demand. Haha

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3 hours ago, the guest said:

I think you will find many are, bound for Vietnam and Cambodia where it's less hostile!

You do realise that Vietnam has even more restrictive laws on registration of foreigners, and recently have been cracking down on those who fail to do so?  A former colleague of mine, working in Saigon, was invited to stay at the house of a Vietnamese workmate in Haiphong during Tet this year.  Someone reported it to local police, and both were fined 5,000,000 VND.

 

"Many foreigners stay for quite a long time in Vietnam and do not register their stay until they are asked by police officer then pay expensive fine. These people again blame on the landlord and other agents for not reminding them to do temporary resident registration. According to Vietnamese law, foreigners must register their stay wherever they spend night(s) in Vietnam".

 

Foreigners who stay overnight at the private houses of citizens shall have to personally or through house owners make a temporary residence declaration with the police offices of wards or communes where they temporarily reside. The ward or commune police offices will then be required to transfer the contents of temporary residence declarations by foreigners to the immigration bodies under the public security offices of the provinces or centrally run cities.

https://vietnamvisavoa.com/en/temporary-residence-registration-for-foreigners-in-vietnam-a16

 

The penalty ranges from a small fine of 500,000 - 5,000,000 VND up to cancellation of your visa and deportation.

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