Pheu Thai-Future Forward ties will be tested

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Pheu Thai-Future Forward ties will be tested

 

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Political breakups normally don’t occur while the parties concerned are in the opposition bloc. There may be signs, though, and the case in point is the relationship between the Pheu Thai and Future Forward parties.

 

So far, the signs have been subtle. But while they can be dismissed as normal because both parties are big, widely-encompassing organizations, the signs have to do with their main purpose _ winning elections.

 

A news report last week suggested that Yaowapa Wongsawat, Pheu Thai’s biggest behind-the-scene influence, is well aware of Future Forward’s threat when the next election comes, which can be sooner rather than later. She has been telling national politicians of her party, particularly those in the North, that they must help local Pheu Thai politicians win rural elections. What appear to be trivial victories can go a long way toward maintaining the party’s dominance in the northern region.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pheu-thai-future-forward-ties-will-be-tested/

 

 

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[scorecard]

"A news report last week suggested that Yaowapa Wongsawat, Pheu Thai’s biggest behind-the-scene influence, ..."

 

Last report was that was still outside of Thailand. It would be very interesting to know whether she's meeting pt politicians and is she breaking election laws. But bottom line she's a shin = no respect for the law.

 

I do agree the situation might well arise when the ff party needs to be seen and rated as the most effective opposite party, actively displaying professionalism, advanced knowledge and insight, transparency, and strongly challenging the status quo and policies in subject areas which desperately need major turn around e.g. education, and equal justice. 

 

[bangkokfrog]

Although one must wonder about the motivation for this opinion piece from what after all is a government owned broadcaster, I do suspect that Pheu Thai and their cronies are running scared in terms of Future Forward's likely performance in the next election.

[AJBangkok]

I’m not sure they are running scared. Pheu Thai snookered themselves in the last elections with their plan to set up a 2nd new party in order to circumvent the new rules of allocating party list seats. When that party was banned they were unable to field around 100 candidates in seats in usually considered safe Pheu Thai seats. Future forward was the main beneficiary of this. It just looks that Pheu Thai is already working on taking back what they think is rightfully theirs.

[rkidlad]

22 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"A news report last week suggested that Yaowapa Wongsawat, Pheu Thai’s biggest behind-the-scene influence, ..."

 

Last report was that was still outside of Thailand. It would be very interesting to know whether she's meeting pt politicians and is she breaking election laws. But bottom line she's a shin = no respect for the law.

 

I do agree the situation might well arise when the ff party needs to be seen and rated as the most effective opposite party, actively displaying professionalism, advanced knowledge and insight, transparency, and strongly challenging the status quo and policies in subject areas which desperately need major turn around e.g. education, and equal justice. 

 

Don't worry, Scorecard. The people who've been in power for the last five years have nothing but the upmost respect for the law. They even bought themselves a 1.1 billion baht jet so they can move around the country more quickly to enforce it. 

[Ozman52]

 

 

Party leaders seem to be getting closer.

[FarFlungFalang]

47 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But bottom line she's a shin = no respect for the law.

No respect for the law doesn't seem particularly unusual in Thailand's political scene.or any other scenes in Thailand.Yet most seem to try and use the "law" to say how crooked the other side is and how they cannot be trusted! 

[pornprong]

Coalitions are by nature consisting of groups with differing views. You'd have to be a fool to think that of the two coalitions, the opposition one is the most fractious. My money is on Prayuth's mob disintegrating within a reasonably short period of time. As for the next election, you'd suspect that FF will win a lot of disgruntled Democrat and BJT votes plus the new younger voters coming of age of the next period whilst at the same time losing a lot of votes that would have flowed to PT's disbanded sister party. Regardless of the results, both parties will again form a governing coalition as they will have to work together to uproot the junta and their shitty constitution. This article reeks of nothing more than a created distraction from Prayuth's current woes.

[londonthai]

On grass roots level at local elections there won’t be much competition between them. Voters get their opinions from social media, not from parliament debates or political propaganda from the Head Office. 

 

Actually, pt and ff are not voting machines, they offered ministerial posts to anybody agreeing with their frame program, so are breaking political party bonduaries. They did cooperate during election campaign. Candidates from the dissolved pt sister party were urging to vote for ff. In chachongsaeo their candidate printed posters to swift voters to ff

[seajae]

FF should end their association with ptp if they were smart before they are caught up in the crap from its owner, ptp has a bad name about the same as the governing coalition, ff have to show thais they can be trusted and are not linked to the corrupt parties. Hopefully ff will become the strongest party in Thailand and be able to rule in their own right removing all the bad elements from govt and ending all the crap from ptp, democrats and prayuths lackies 

[pornprong]

Just now, seajae said:

FF should end their association with ptp if they were smart before they are caught up in the crap from its owner, ptp has a bad name about the same as the governing coalition, ff have to show thais they can be trusted and are not linked to the corrupt parties. Hopefully ff will become the strongest party in Thailand and be able to rule in their own right removing all the bad elements from govt and ending all the crap from ptp, democrats and prayuths lackies 

For FF to achieve anything, the military have to be removed from power and the constitution replaced with a democratic one. The only way this can occur is for PT and FF to work together which is what they are doing and will continue to do until the dragon has been slayed. 376 seats are required in the lower house to make the appointed Senate redundant, together, hitting this mark is a realistic aim, separately, there is no chance.

 

What fascinates me about the old pro-junta posters sudden love for FF is their complete lack of acknowledgement of FF's choice to partner with PT. If you guys think FF are good enough to govern the country then why do you question their ability to choose who they will or will not partner with. I suspect that the only reason there is any love for FF from your crowd is because it has become too embarrassing to continue supporting the Junta and you haven't the morals or integrity to admit you were wrong about the coups all along.

[yellowboat]

If they act as badly as coalition junta, the country will be in peril   A very low bar has been set for Thailand.  Doubtful it could get lower. 

[rtco]

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

she's a shin = no respect for the law

And the Prayut mobsters do have that respect do they???

[scorecard]

10 minutes ago, rtco said:

And the Prayut mobsters do have that respect do they???

I didn't say that, in fact I've criticized them many times including their lack of respect and lack of credibility and morals. 

[lipflipper]

Granted it's only one photo but that Thaksin clone sure has a smug look on his pretty face.

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[Small Joke]

1 hour ago, yellowboat said:

If they act as badly as coalition junta, the country will be in peril   A very low bar has been set for Thailand.  Doubtful it could get lower. 

Thai politics: "Hold my Chang...."

[pornprong]

1 hour ago, lipflipper said:

Granted it's only one photo but that Thaksin clone sure has a smug look on his pretty face.

Thaksin clone?

He looks nothing like him in physical appearance.

What is it you think they supposedly have so much in common?

[FarFlungFalang]

4 hours ago, yellowboat said:

If they act as badly as coalition junta, the country will be in peril   A very low bar has been set for Thailand.  Doubtful it could get lower. 

Oh you ain't seen nuthin' yet!Then again getting lower than a snakes' arse is pretty difficult though not out of the realms of possibility for this band of crooks.

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, yellowboat said:

If they act as badly as coalition junta, the country will be in peril   A very low bar has been set for Thailand.  Doubtful it could get lower. 

sure it will get lower, they have to reach the bottom, they are half way there 555

[Baerboxer]

8 hours ago, pornprong said:

For FF to achieve anything, the military have to be removed from power and the constitution replaced with a democratic one. The only way this can occur is for PT and FF to work together which is what they are doing and will continue to do until the dragon has been slayed. 376 seats are required in the lower house to make the appointed Senate redundant, together, hitting this mark is a realistic aim, separately, there is no chance.

 

What fascinates me about the old pro-junta posters sudden love for FF is their complete lack of acknowledgement of FF's choice to partner with PT. If you guys think FF are good enough to govern the country then why do you question their ability to choose who they will or will not partner with. I suspect that the only reason there is any love for FF from your crowd is because it has become too embarrassing to continue supporting the Junta and you haven't the morals or integrity to admit you were wrong about the coups all along.

 

But never too embarrassing for you to continue supporting the corrupt Shin family political vehicle, Pheu Thai!

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, pornprong said:

Thaksin clone?

He looks nothing like him in physical appearance.

What is it you think they supposedly have so much in common?

 

Money - lots and lots of it. 

[pornprong]

10 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

But never too embarrassing for you to continue supporting the corrupt Shin family political vehicle, Pheu Thai!

But never too embarrassing for you to continue supporting the corrupt Shin family political vehicle, Pheu Thai! democracy.

[Eligius]

Pheua Thai and Future Forward should rightly be worried about the next 'election' - but not for the bogus reasons this silly Establishment article postulates (and does so to undermine the counter-Establishment forces).

Pheua Thai and Future Forward should be worried about the next 'election' because the next 'election' will be even more rigged and twisted and reality-remote than the recent one. The militarists will have learnt their lesson and will NOT allow a result that depicts them as only barely able to grasp hold of the leadership by desperately cobbling together a frail coalition. They will so totally rig every single step and movement of the 'election', its  processes and 'results' that they will be declared the winners by a large margin. If you think you've seen criminal mendacity in the last 'election' - you just wait for what the militarists will pull off in the next one!

 

Thailand's return to freedom will NOT come through any fake elections. That route is sealed and closed for all time. The Thais will have to find some other means ...

[FNQ]

11 hours ago, seajae said:

FF should end their association with ptp if they were smart before they are caught up in the crap from its owner, ptp has a bad name about the same as the governing coalition, ff have to show thais they can be trusted and are not linked to the corrupt parties. Hopefully ff will become the strongest party in Thailand and be able to rule in their own right removing all the bad elements from govt and ending all the crap from ptp, democrats and prayuths lackies 

well stated.

[ThomasThBKK]

3 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Money - lots and lots of it. 

Yeah and the current ones in power are poor farmers right? 

What a logical fallacy.

[Denim]

13 hours ago, AJBangkok said:

Pheu Thai snookered themselves in the last elections with their plan to set up a 2nd new party in order to circumvent the new rules of allocating party list seats. 

 

No. Pheu Thai were snookered by their naive gullibility. In dirty politics , rule number 1 . Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.