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BREAKING: One killed in Chiang Mai plane crash: See video


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5 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

What does “when the altitude is too low” mean?

 

i wonder if he ejected at all? The trainees are suppose to be making the mistakes not the instructors...

 

interested to hear their final conversation....a critical mistake was made somewhere in the final minutes

 

 

l should think did not a Martin Baker zero zero seat fitted in such a old aircraft..

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6 hours ago, Brickbat said:

Huge Govt surplus and shitty eastern bloc planes! Wing 41 in the heart of CM. I see them whizzing around , planes and helicopters,   quite often from my balcony. Let’s hope they get their damn act together. 

RIP to the pilot. 

L39 Albatros is one of the best jet trainers in the world, nowhere being " shitty". Better than most but shit happens....

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6 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Have seen a couple of these mosquitos buzzing around for the last few days unfortunately every landing aircraft passes directly over my house at 2-300ft not a problem I'm well used to aircraft noise having lived for decades on the RAF Lyneham flight path but this is a little more concerning having come down only seconds away from me and the inner-city airport it was heading for and not the first time seam to remember one last year also it maybe time to move the military out of CM airport for the publics safety to somewhere more remote to do their future crashing 🤔RIP         

I believe CM airport is actually on the airforce base

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5 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

altitude means the height from the ground if you use ejection at a very low altitude you have a serious problem from the article can’t say what when wrong.

You are correct, it doesn't say what went wrong, but it takes time for the ejection seat parachutes to deploy, ejection too close to the ground may mean that the parachutes on the ejection seat didn't have time to deploy. (oops...my apologies, didn't see the earlier post already stating that)

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Mrs. LawrenceN is in a chat group with the mother of the deceased who was told her son stayed with the plane to steer it away from houses, to avoid loss of life. By the time he was clear of the populated area, it was too late to eject safely.

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14 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Sorry, but the way it is written sounds like a Thai coach driver doing a runner !

"An RTAF source said that the survivor was the first to eject from the dropping aircraft, and the instructor ejected when the altitude was too low"

The Instructor most probably was trying to get the air-plane away from the town or villages and to crash at a safer place !!!

R.I.P. ...RESPECT !!! A courageous man !!!

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American aircraft including air force trainers are equipted with a 0 feet ejection seat, meaning you can eject from the ground
 
and still have enough altitude for your chute to open.
Not if you are nose down trying to eject at 1 foot
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8 hours ago, DavoTheGun said:

The L39 has had a very good safety record, in fact is a very good training AC, one of the best, but things happen!

But they need proper maintenance - not a strong feature of life in Thailand!

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13 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

What does “when the altitude is too low” mean?

 

i wonder if he ejected at all? The trainees are suppose to be making the mistakes not the instructors...

 

interested to hear their final conversation....a critical mistake was made somewhere in the final minutes

 

 

Some injection seat in aircraft are not "Zero" seats allowing one  to eject even while the plane is on the ground. So, if one ejects at an altitude that is too low, your chances are not good! 

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11 hours ago, Expat Tom said:

Some injection seat in aircraft are not "Zero" seats allowing one  to eject even while the plane is on the ground. So, if one ejects at an altitude that is too low, your chances are not good! 

Exactly. Older seats did not have enough charge to push the seat high enough to work properly so a certain amount of aircraft height was required for a successful ejection.

I used to be an aircraft engineer and your life depended on knowing which pins should be where before entering the cockpit, extremely dangerous equipment ejection seats.

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On 7/12/2019 at 12:03 PM, KOZMO said:

American aircraft including air force trainers are equipted with a 0 feet ejection seat, meaning you can eject from the ground

 

and still have enough altitude for your chute to open.

Even if you are upside down? 

I'd humbly suggest that aircraft speed attitude, altitude and other factors maybe other factors for consideration 

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