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Phuket tourism going down the pan just like Pattaya: Few tourists and much worse than last year

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4 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said:

That's obviously a percentage chart that shows fa.

SOURCE: https://www.bot.or.th/Thai/Statistics/Graph/Chart_Pack/Chart Pack.pdf 

BANK OF THAILAND.

Clearly shows a household debt of 13 Trillion baht, a number never seen before.

 

 

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Can't you read your own chart?  You said household debt was higher than it's ever been.  Take a look at your chart.😂

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3 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

My thai wife and me have been living for 20 yrs in southern France . After arriving there she got her " carte de sejour " what is like an identity card . It is good for a five yrs stay without having to report anything in these five yrs . she had exactly the same rights as a french citizen . She could buy land , work , whatever , she felt welcomed .

In 2015 We moved back to Thailand because we are getting older and need to employ somebody helping us with the house and garden etc ... Too expensive in France .

But here I am an " alien " with basically no rights , but duties to report every move I make to the government , I do not feel welcome here .

 

If the Thais think that they can attract people to invest in their country ( even for a holiday ) with politics like this , they will need to damn wake up soon , because Thailands reputation has gone down too much .

 

What is needed here is a complete change of politics regarding foreigners , especially those who come here to live and invest . 

 

I can only hope that some Thai government members read this thread . There is a lot of infos here that explain correctly the decreasing numbers of foreigners wanting to stay here .

But probably they will not be able to understand ( english ) ...?

 

Pity you have learned so little about Thais after being married to one for so long.  If this thread was translated into Thai/Issan the government would get angry and say, "you don't understand Thai people." And propose more anti Farang legislation.  

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5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yep, I stopped having holidays in Thailand a few years back. I spend the minimum possible money living here now, but so far this year I've had holidays in Saigon (x2), Phnom Penh and Da Nang. That was money I would have previously spent in Thai beach resorts.

 

As for prices, return flight CNX to Da Nang 2,300bht, bus from the airport to the town 25c, hotel 100m from the beach $15/night, the beach was clean, nobody selling, and the water was clear. Way cheaper than Phuket.

 

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Me2...I totally agree!  And much safer on Vietnam roads.

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"Manager said that it was obvious to anyone that tourism had been in decline for years with less tourists and less revenue"

 

Not to TAT it hasn't been! Year after year they have been trumpeting their "increased tourist rates", and now that leading voices from Pattaya and Phuket have pitched in with their version of the situation, TAT are conspicuous by their silence! 

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when greed and lawlessness sets in tourism is sure to be impacted because visitors begin to look for alternative sources, much to the peril of the country.

 

it is a  long process to rebuild confidence and depends on the genuine will of the hosts to restore  such confidence for people to return. we should never forget that there are numerous alternatives vying for this business.

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14 minutes ago, dave moir said:

It's not just Phuket and Pattaya Chiang Mai is like a ghost town and has progressively gone down hill over the past 5 years very sad to see lots of people's livelihood disappearing.

there is a reason for everything.

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7 hours ago, Snuller21 said:

And a way to strong Baht. Thailand used to be an affordable country for holidays. Not anymore as the Baht is way too strong. And that is also for the Export. Just look at the price for rice, and the declining of that as export as well. And Toyota making an assembly factory for HiLux in Myanmar, as they lose money on every assembled car in Thailand. Just saying.

thai baht is but one small component of the whole zigsaw puzzle. violence, cheating and indiscriminate price hikes are some of the other factors.

 

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I think people are just tired of going to Thailand. I have been going back and forth there for over 30 years and seen the places going downhill. The beaches are dirty and seem to be more rats around. Garbage everywhere and too much traffic. I would rarer go to a place where I am not pester every time I sat down to have a drink and eat as I do not want to buy their crap. 

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12 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Can't you read your own chart?  You said household debt was higher than it's ever been.  Take a look at your chart.😂

Yeah i can read it, last year it was 12 trillion this year it's already 13 trillion, a near 10 percent gain.

So yes, it's at an all time high.

 

You have some serious issues.

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6 hours ago, BestB said:

I am a long term expat and I take frequent holidays to Jakarta to have fun instead of locally . 

 

Why?

 

Because I am tired of having to pay top money for crap service, put up with crap English and bad attitude.

 

In Jakarta , I pay less, female company speaks good enough English, no sisters or brothers calling for her to go fast, no mobile phone that she must play with , I do not hear sad stories about sick mother or father and I get exactly what we agreed.

 

Taxi, grab, dirt cheap. Food just as cheap, and no one annoying you to buy some crap while you out , no hassles with police and friendly immigration 

No mention of the sick Buffalo's or her sister's sowing machine kaput

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Now wouldn't this be a great opportunity for the editors to take up again (and keep on doing it) the issue of expats wishing to import their car(s - fx 2, one driven, the other stored) into Thailand? You know, this: 

 

'The best way to import (permanently) a car (or a bike or any type of vehicle) into Thailand is… to forget about it. Put it simply, it’s close to impossible, especially for a used car and even for a new one. If you’re not convinced, use Google and try to find success stories. You probably won’t find any, but plenty of horror stories instead. The taxes are as high as 300%, and that’s only for starters. Basically no car is worth the hassle and if you think it’s worth it, it will only make matters worse for you.' from http://driving-in-thailand.com/importing-a-vehicle-into-thailand/

 

I copied/pasted this to hopefully discourage you from adding more such comments: I have really heard them all, plus I have already died laughing. D'accord?

 

If tourism goes down, so will revenue, and this may inspire second thoughts in people who seemed to have it all under control. Of course I can't predict that after letting expats have their car(s) duty-free into the country, tourism will go up again. But the present car import situation sure is one of these bits of nuisance that contribute to making people ask themselves if this really is the right place. If someone in a function had the nerve to dare some 'innovative' thought and calculate it through (I haven't/couldn't, just guessing), he might find that letting expats have their car(s) could actually be a win-win siituation... 

  

 


 

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