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BANGKOK 24 July 2019 01:02
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Problems at Savannakhet and Border July 2019 Report

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1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

You are not a tourist, so get a proper visa.

 

This debate has been hammered to death.

 

Forcing me to invest in an education visa to pretend to go to school since I have absolutely no interest in going to school is just as bad. So that wouldn't be the proper visa anyways since I'm always traveling. What do you call someone who's always traveling? 

 

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1 hour ago, lkv said:

Seems to have worked for you, with all your 5 page entry list, so that's wonderful news.

 

Enjoy your stay.

 

Oh and by the way, welcome to the forum.

Thanks. Well ,I made it, but it opened my eyes. An ED Visa for lets say 2 consecutive years isn`t a problem as alternative right? I intend to go to a language school, to finally learn proper Thai, as I just know like 300 words.

If I had known that forum earlier I just would have sticked to the Elite Visa 2 yrs ago, but now it`s not worth anymore. And with 34 I am quite far away from the retirement visa.

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1 minute ago, SpanishExpat said:

And with 34 I am quite far away from the retirement visa.

You have the visa list in my previous post. 🙂

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3 minutes ago, jackdd said:

He doesn't work in Thailand, so looks like a tourist to me.

Why do you think he is not a tourist?

Because he did not go home in 1 and a half years, and Immigration is not buying: "I live off my passive investments".

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Just now, jackdd said:

Thailand Elite is also a tourist visa, and allows the person to stay in the country for however long he wants.

So staying in Thailand for an extended period of time doesn't make somebody not-a-tourist.

But that doesn`t interest the IO. I told the IO the exactly same thing 2 days ago and she obviously had no real argument. She kept telling me *but this is the immigration, this is Thailand*. It`s perfectly possible to live on a METV by earning passive money at home and they know it. But they won`t get 500k-2Mio like with the Elite visa. They are just narrow-minded. In my case after she called my gf and I proved I had flown several times Thai First Class= money for the country, she didn`t even bother to ask for the 20k Baht. 

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No one knows who will win.

Right now it's like a battle between Border Entry vs. Airport Entry.

 

Right now whoever is in charge of Airport immigration are cracking down on a law that doesn't exist.

 

Border immigration sees it as if you get issued a Visa from an Embassy then you're good to go. Because the embassy has requirements to be approved for the Visa. If you didn't have money and couldn't show a bank statement you won't get the Visa to begin with. As long as someone has the money, truly not illegally working and not overstaying their Visa, I don't see a crime with that. 

 

I just believe that it's part of corruption at the airport because if what they are doing is legit, then they shouldn't be denying people if they can show 20k cash and onward flight, that means the person should be good and spend the money in Thailand. And another shady thing is they also don't "Void" the Visas along with the denial. Because why would they keep the Visa valid only for them to use it at another entry point. It's like their way of saying if you really have money then you can try to enter again at another entry point.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, acenase said:

Right now whoever is in charge of Airport immigration are cracking down on a law that doesn't exist.

You are close to violating the Computer Crime Act right now. You are damaging the image of the fine people of Immigration, by making unsubstantiated statements.

 

You had no money in April at Suvarnabhumi.

 

They gave you the opportunity to appeal, right? Said there on the paper it can be appealed. 

 

You acknowledged you had no money, when you were rejected under 12.2.

 

Makes sense? 🙂

 

(I'm being sarcastic about the whole thing, just showing you what this Thailand is all about).

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4 hours ago, acenase said:

No one knows who will win.

Right now it's like a battle between Border Entry vs. Airport Entry.

 

Right now whoever is in charge of Airport immigration are cracking down on a law that doesn't exist.

 

Border immigration sees it as if you get issued a Visa from an Embassy then you're good to go. Because the embassy has requirements to be approved for the Visa. If you didn't have money and couldn't show a bank statement you won't get the Visa to begin with. As long as someone has the money, truly not illegally working and not overstaying their Visa, I don't see a crime with that. 

 

I just believe that it's part of corruption at the airport because if what they are doing is legit, then they shouldn't be denying people if they can show 20k cash and onward flight, that means the person should be good and spend the money in Thailand. And another shady thing is they also don't "Void" the Visas along with the denial. Because why would they keep the Visa valid only for them to use it at another entry point. It's like their way of saying if you really have money then you can try to enter again at another entry point.

Can you explain what “corruption” is taking place when people get denied?

 

All sounds like more baseless uninformed conspiracy rhetoric. The simple fact is that since 2006 the authorities have been clamping down on long stay tourism and the most recent focus has been at the airport. 

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4 hours ago, jackdd said:

Thailand Elite is also a tourist visa, and allows the person to stay in the country for however long he wants.

So staying in Thailand for an extended period of time doesn't make somebody not-a-tourist.

No it’s not, Tourism is limited to a maximum stay of 90 days. It is a Privilege Entry visa issued under investment rules.

 

We are visitors visiting for various reasons, tourism is just one ‘specific’ reason.

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