rooster59 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Crackdown on immigrant families to start Sunday, Trump says By Nandita Bose U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a "social media summit" meeting with prominent conservative social media figures in the East Room of the White House in Washington, U.S., July 11, 2019. REUTERS/Carlos Barria WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A nationwide wave of arrests of immigrants facing deportation will commence over the weekend, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday, confirming that the plan, intended to discourage a surge of Central American migrants, was on track after a delay. The operation is expected to target hundreds of families in 10 cities that have recently been ordered deported by an immigration court but have not yet left the country. Trump revealed the operation on Twitter last month and then postponed it. It is unusual for the government to announce deportation operations ahead of time. "People are coming into this country illegally, we are taking them out legally," Trump told reporters on Friday, calling it a "major operation" that would mainly focus on removing criminals. In a typical week, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrests thousands of immigrants who are staying in the country illegally, according to government data. Most of those arrests are made without any advance publicity. The president, speaking to reporters at the White House on Friday, said he was not concerned that the advance notice could help targeted immigrants evade arrest. "If the word gets out, it gets out," he said. Since Trump first spoke of the plan, a number of city mayors, nearly all Democrats, have repeated their long-standing policies of not cooperating with ICE officials on deportations and have advertised helplines people can call to understand their rights. Democratic lawmakers, among others, have also sought to inform immigrants of their rights, telling them not to open their door for ICE unless agents present a court-issued warrant, and not to say or sign anything before speaking with a lawyer. DETERRING BORDER CROSSINGS Trump, a Republican who has made cracking down on illegal immigration a centrepiece of his administration, is trying to deal with a surge of mostly Central American families crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. Many families are approaching border officials to seek asylum. The latest planned arrests would follow widespread criticism of the crowded, unsanitary conditions in which immigrants are being detained along the southwestern border and concerns about children being separated from adults by border officials. In a hearing on the subject on Friday at the U.S. House of Representatives, some Democrats said they feared the forthcoming arrests could result in more immigrant children being separated from their families. Elijah Cummings, the chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, asked a federal watchdog about its recently issued report saying detention conditions were below standards. Jennifer Costello, the acting inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security, told the congressional hearing that the government was falling short in terms of "crowding, the prolonged detention, some of the hygiene that the children are supposed to have." Costello said it would be "impossible" to meet required standards under "the conditions that we saw there." "It's shocking," she said. REPORTERS TAKEN INSIDE Trump sent Vice President Mike Pence to visit some of the criticized detention facilities in McAllen, Texas, on Friday along with journalists, who have generally been denied access to detained immigrants. Pence visited one overcrowded and foul-smelling facility where almost 400 men are detained behind metal fences, some sleeping on concrete, after being accused of crossing the U.S. border illegally. The Trump administration has increased pressure on the governments of Mexico and several Central American countries to stem the flow of migrants reaching the U.S. border. Trump is to meet with Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales at the White House on Monday for talks on immigration and security. Morales may sign an agreement with Trump declaring Guatemala a safe destination for asylum seekers, which could prevent many from applying in the United States, according to officials in both governments. Alongside these international efforts, Trump has sought to deter border crossings with highly publicized crackdowns in the United States. The operation that Trump said would start on Sunday is an example. ICE is expected to target families whose immigration cases were handled through an expedited court process that began in 2018. The agency has notified about 2,000 of those people that they face deportation because they failed to appear in court, acting ICE Director Mark Morgan said last month. Immigration rights activists have complained that in many cases immigrants, especially those involved in expedited hearings, do not receive proper notice of their court dates. ICE has declined to discuss the weekend's operation, including whether those families are among those being targeted. The American Civil Liberties Union and other civil rights groups sued this week to stop the arrests going ahead, asking a court to prevent the deportation of asylum-seeking families who missed their court dates until they at least get a hearing. Mexico's government said on Friday that it would step up consular assistance for its citizens living in the United States "who may be affected by the possible migratory operations," but did not give more details. (Reporting by Nandita Bose; Additional reporting by Mica Rosenberg, Matthew Lavietes and Jonathan Allen in New York, Richard Cowan and Mohammed Zargham in Washington, Kristina Cooke in San Francisco, and Stefanie Eschenbacher in Mexico City; Writing by Susan Heavey and Jonathan Allen; Editing by Dan Grebler, Diane Craft and Daniel Wallis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-13 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Another election promise about to be fulfilled. Never has there been a President that followed through and achieved so many of his pre-electoral promises. Good luck with this Trump, the US citizens deserve priority over illegal immigrants. This should not be a contentious issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 "It is unusual for the government to announce deportation operations ahead of time." Not if you're an attention seeking retard it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, edwinchester said: "It is unusual for the government to announce deportation operations ahead of time." Not if you're an attention seeking retard it isn't. It is hoped the info. will inspire them to surrender to an Immigration office thus saving them from the trauma of a raid. It is a kind gesture but some are bound to go into hiding or maybe go to an unconstitutional sanctuary city instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, daoyai said: It is hoped the info. will inspire them to surrender to an Immigration office thus saving them from the trauma of a raid. It is a kind gesture but some are bound to go into hiding or maybe go to an unconstitutional sanctuary city instead. But when the mayor of Oakland does it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: On that basis America's homeless should be heading to Canada and the whole world should stage an outcry should they be turned away. The question EdWinchester was addressing is why would these people turn themselves in now that they've been warned by Trump. Not whether or not the USA should let them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Found this: Trump called Oakland mayor a ‘disgrace’ for revealing ICE raids. Then he did the same thing. When Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf tipped residents off last year that immigration agents would be conducting enforcement operations, President Trump called her actions a “disgrace.”... The acting Immigration and Customs Enforcement director at the time, Thomas Homan, said Schaaf was “no better than a gang lookout yelling ‘police!’ when a police cruiser comes in the neighborhood.”... On Friday morning, he [Trump] reaffirmed that the operations to remove a large number of immigrants in the country illegally were set to proceed, stating that there was “nothing to be secret about.” https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trump-ice-sweeps-warning-20190712-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Here is an idea, stop backing and instigating right wing coups in Central America, such as Hondouras. And before you start bleating 'butttt that was Obama', yep aware of that, so America should stop backing these coups and causing sh$t in other countries. And for those so pleased about stuff like this, the way the world is heading, remember you are an immigrant at the moment, one new law and you might be illegal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozman52 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 By not announcing which cities, he has made illegal immigrants in 300 cities (over 100,000 pop) feel nervous, to varying degrees. If only a few of them talk about their fears of deportation to relatives in their countries, it could reduce enthusiasm for immigration. Do I think Trump thought of that? Not bloody likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Live by the illegal flounder by the illegal ,that will be the down fall of the dems in 2020! So many minorities I would think feel a disjustice, offended. You ask your legal Imm if they are for illegals,whats their response gonna be,especially after years of going through the process of getting here! Fair! nope. The only reason its at fever pitch is the dems have a scorch earth policy on anything Trump, before and after PT became POTUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, PremiumLane said: Here is an idea, stop backing and instigating right wing coups in Central America, such as Hondouras. And before you start bleating 'butttt that was Obama', yep aware of that, so America should stop backing these coups and causing sh$t in other countries. And for those so pleased about stuff like this, the way the world is heading, remember you are an immigrant at the moment, one new law and you might be illegal too. There are foreign nationals from 50 or so countries that are participating in illegal entry at the SB not just CA. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/texas-deploys-1-000-more-troops-to-border-after-arresting-migrants-from-52-countries-this-month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 It’s all a headline grabbing distraction for Trump’s racist base. Classic Trump tactics, create a news storm to distract from the real criminality within his administration and his own family. But as riclag rightly pointed out. ’Live by the illegal, flounder by the illegal’. Trump needs to focus on prison reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Any predictions as to "inadvertent" death toll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s all a headline grabbing distraction for Trump’s racist base. Classic Trump tactics, create a news storm to distract from the real criminality within his administration and his own family. But as riclag rightly pointed out. ’Live by the illegal, flounder by the illegal’. Trump needs to focus on prison reform. Racism has nothing to do with it,Fair people talk about the rule of law,thats were the illegal comes in, the liberals don't talk about that, they use the race card! Remember when this was all a MFG crisis ,while the dems wouldn't give a inch on budgeting money to take care of these facilities. They reversed it and put the blame on PT. Hypocritical! It will blow up in their face.The swing voter will right this ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, riclag said: Racism has nothing to do with it,Fair people talk about the rule of law,thats were the illegal comes in, the liberals don't talk about that, they use the race card! It's intriguing that those areas of the countries that feel most threatened by illegal immigrants are those areas where they are least encountered: predominantly white rural areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozman52 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Any predictions as to "inadvertent" death toll? Do I detect wishful thinking? If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US), I'm sure there are plenty who would use the resulting deaths as a political weapon. In most countries, if you start shooting at law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, the right and wrong is very clear. Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Trump et al are a long way from this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 The"illegal" immigration debacle has been a political football for decades...what the Dems are guilty of now is promoting lawlessness by helping illegals stay in the US illegally... Playing the "race card" is a weak argument...if the Dems want open borders...change the damn law...you have the Congress and all the important committees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 hours ago, daoyai said: It is hoped the info. will inspire them to surrender to an Immigration office thus saving them from the trauma of a raid. It is a kind gesture but some are bound to go into hiding or maybe go to an unconstitutional sanctuary city instead. Kind , gesture?? Trump>> oxymoronic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Trump et al are a long way from this They all came legal, those tired and poor! Come legal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ozman52 said: Do I detect wishful thinking? If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US), I'm sure there are plenty who would use the resulting deaths as a political weapon. In most countries, if you start shooting at law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, the right and wrong is very clear. Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose. "If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US),..." Clearly the wishful thinking is on your part? As for "Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose", because those immigrants don't really have a reason to fear ICE? Qhy don't those immigrants understand that there's very little difference between ICE agents and Santa Claus. They're just bringing the gift of deportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 mr. donald trump fullfills his election promises whilst leaning back watching dummy dems to be ripping themselves apart in the caracas caucus. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozman52 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, bristolboy said: "If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US),..." Clearly the wishful thinking is on your part? As for "Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose", because those immigrants don't really have a reason to fear ICE? Qhy don't those immigrants understand that there's very little difference between ICE agents and Santa Claus. They're just bringing the gift of deportation. Deportation is, and should be, the ultimate result of illegal immigration, no matter how much BS you manage to fit between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatfromwyoming Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Another election promise about to be fulfilled. Never has there been a President that followed through and achieved so many of his pre-electoral promises. Good luck with this Trump, the US citizens deserve priority over illegal immigrants. This should not be a contentious issue. Why do Trump supporters blindly ignore his lies and broken promises? And worse-don't care that their man is telling lies.Despite his epic fails, lies and incompetence, Trump’s base supports him like he is God. Although I don't think Trump believes in God- How could Trump put his faith in a guy who supposedly built the heavens and earth… but didn’t put Trumps name on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Reported post removed. Please do not use derogatory name calling in your posts such as "orange moron" . The post will be removed and any responses to it. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, roobaa01 said: mr. donald trump fullfills his election promises whilst leaning back watching dummy dems to be ripping themselves apart in the caracas caucus. wbr roobaa01 He promised to stop illegal imm. Hows it going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sujo said: He promised to stop illegal imm. Hows it going? Amazingly well considering! https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/27/politics/private-border-wall-gofundme/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 as fox news reports vice presidents pence was tearing the cnn fake news about us dentention centers apart. also as usual involved in such hoax stories the fantastic 4 stupid dem clowns antisemite supporter aocortez, antisemite muslims omar , tlaib and senile sanders. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, roobaa01 said: as fox news reports vice presidents pence was tearing the cnn fake news about us dentention centers apart. also as usual involved in such hoax stories the fantastic 4 stupid dem clowns antisemite supporter aocortez, antisemite muslims omar , tlaib and senile sanders. wbr roobaa01 Nurse>> Medication Time ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 US has ICE, Thailand has BJ...same same except BJ is more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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