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I don’t believe anyone disagrees with criminal elements being removed promptly, but try to minimize trauma to families 

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1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

Do I detect wishful thinking? If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US), I'm sure there are plenty who would use the resulting deaths as a political weapon.

 

In most countries, if you start shooting at law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, the right and wrong is very clear. Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose.

No wishful thinking at all. I actually was thinking how many times"resisting arrest" could  be an excuse  to for fire play.

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s all a headline grabbing distraction for Trump’s racist base.

 

Classic Trump tactics, create a news storm to distract from the real criminality within his administration and his own family.

 

But as riclag rightly pointed out.

 

’Live by the illegal, flounder by the illegal’.

 

Trump needs to focus on prison reform.

Trump is likely planning a rally shortly there after so getting the meatheads all juiced up

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1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

Deportation is, and should be, the ultimate result of illegal immigration, no matter how much BS you manage to fit between the two.

Right, the speculative BS was coming from me? Let me remind you of what you wrote:

"If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US),..."

 

"In most countries, if you start shooting at law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, the right and wrong is very clear. Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose."

 

 

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Trump deporting immigrants at slower pace than Obama: report

 

Despite a larger number of deportations in fiscal 2018 than 2017, the Trump administration’s deportation levels still fall below those under the early years of the Obama administration, according to an Axios report.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449665-trump-deporting-immigrants-at-slower-pace-than-obama-report

 

https://www.axios.com/immigration-ice-deportation-trump-obama-a72a0a44-540d-46bc-a671-cd65cf72f4b1.html

 

 

Biden under fire for mass deportations under Obama

 

But when it comes to Latinos and immigration, Biden is learning that the Obama defense doesn’t do the trick: The former Democratic administration’s mass deportations of 3 million people provoked fear and fury in the community at the time, and the bad taste has lingered even with Donald Trump in the White House.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/12/biden-immigration-2020-1411691

 

 

 

 

No clue why trump pre-announced these efforts? Seems like that puts law enforcement in a more hazardous position? And he could have bragged about the results after the round -ups?

 

 

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42 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Right, the speculative BS was coming from me? Let me remind you of what you wrote:

"If illegal immigrants believe the BS that they have been fed, that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US),..."

 

"In most countries, if you start shooting at law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, the right and wrong is very clear. Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose."

 

 

The BS I was referring to was fake asylum claims, delay, court hearing, delay, appeal, delay, appeal, delay, constant claims of human right abuses, issue of deportation notice, location and apprehension, and whatever else fits between arrival and departure.

 

But spin away if that floats your boat.

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39 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

The BS I was referring to was fake asylum claims, delay, court hearing, delay, appeal, delay, appeal, delay, constant claims of human right abuses, issue of deportation notice, location and apprehension, and whatever else fits between arrival and departure.

 

But spin away if that floats your boat.

That's may be the "BS: you're referring to in your text, but it's the BS you added on that's in question  

"that they have a "human right" not to be deported and start shooting ( and how unusual would that be in the gun-crazed US),..."

 

And then you carry on with the BS you've created about shooting with this:

"In most countries, if you start shooting at law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, the right and wrong is very clear. Demonizing of ICE is done for a purpose."

 

 

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2 hours ago, riclag said:

Racism has nothing to do with it,Fair people talk about the rule of law,thats were the illegal comes in, the liberals don't talk about that, they use the race card!

Remember when this was all a MFG crisis ,while the dems wouldn't give a inch on budgeting money to take care of these facilities. They reversed it and put the blame on PT. Hypocritical! It will blow up in their face.The swing voter will right this ship!

I didn’t say racist policy, I said racist base.

 

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Perhaps this is a clue. However I am content in the fact that he has set himself up for a harder election than people realize.   Wisconsin, PA, and Michigan don’t look good.  Without those states and the electoral votes that come with them, Trump loses 2020 and America wins.

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3 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

I'll need to put on my knee high boots to wade through this BS... 

 

Same bleeding hearts show up to demonize the Trump administration with character assasination rhetoric... 

 

Truth is he has pulled off a miracle in the economy with little support from either Republicans or Democrats...

 

He WILL be your President for another six years...get use to it!   😮

But you don't put them on when Trump bloviates his BS- then you need an immersion suit.

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1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said:

Truth is he has pulled off a miracle in the economy with little support from either Republicans or Democrats...

 

What is it that he actually did with very little support from Republicans or Democrats? I'm intrigued.

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5 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Any predictions as to "inadvertent" death toll?

Well I suppose that if the dressing up box for ICE's wannabe stormtroopers includes fire arms, then quite high!

 

Since any sort of governmental action in the US seems to require those involved to be heavily armed...

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