Crackdown on immigrant families to start Sunday, Trump says

[Uptooyoo 328]

13 hours ago, bristolboy said:

How do you know that owners haven't give permission? Seems unlikely. Unless it's federal land.

I didn't know the border could be privately held. I thought it was the nation's border, meaning all citizens.

[bristolboy 18,041]

Just now, Uptooyoo said:

I didn't know the border could be privately held. I thought it was the nation's border, meaning all citizens.

There are plenty of Americans who own land right up to and including the border. One of the reasons Trump's all is so unpopular in that part of the world is for precisely that reason.

[Skallywag 4,252]

16 minutes ago, Uptooyoo said:

Families can minimize family trauma by not dragging their kids thousands of miles to violate our laws.

There are reports that kids are for sale to those forming fake families at the border. They know how to work the system and how to get sympathy from the left wing morons running the media.

 

Exactly.  Most of the illegals learn that amnesty / asylum is the best way if they cannot come in legally.  Stats show that over 75% are coming in for economic reasons - not for fear of persecution as news plays up.

Even a hundred+ years ago when many of the Irish and Italians immigrated to the USA there was a quota.

Heck, during the late 30's and early 40's america only let in a small number of Jews, and they were definitely being persecuted as we all know.   "Many who sought a safe haven from persecution during the 1930s and 1940s found their efforts thwarted by the United States’ restrictive immigration quotas and the complicated, demanding requirements for obtaining visas"   https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/immigration-to-the-united-states-1933-41

[bristolboy 18,041]

28 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Even a hundred+ years ago when many of the Irish and Italians immigrated to the USA there was a quota.

 

No, not really. The 1921 Emergency Quota act was created mainly to keep Jews from Eastern Europe out of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Quota_Act

The act tied levels of immigration to the current ethnic makeup back then of the USA. So Northern European immigrants were favored. The Irish should have had no problem getting into the USA since their main waves of immigration happened earlier. There were earlier immigration quotas established. They were quite openly racist.

 

[Redline 4,749]

3 hours ago, Uptooyoo said:

Families can minimize family trauma by not dragging their kids thousands of miles to violate our laws.

There are reports that kids are for sale to those forming fake families at the border. They know how to work the system and how to get sympathy from the left wing morons running the media.

 

It's called asylum~that's why they come~it doesn't matter if they are a family or not it is a government program.

 

Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:

• Race
• Religion
• Nationality
• Membership in a particular social group
• Political opinion

If you are eligible for asylum you may be permitted to remain in the United States. To apply for Asylum, file a Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, within one year of your arrival to the United States. There is no fee to apply for asylum.

 

If you don't understand, you can ask your teacher to explain it to you

[Hanaguma 684]

The headline is wrong.

 

This isn't a crackdown on "immigrant families". Not in the slightest.  Nor is is a random search for all illegal aliens. It is an enforcement of court ordered deportation notices. These are people who have had their day(s) in court, enjoyed due process, and have been ordered to leave the US. In spite of this, they haven't left. It's only logical to round them up and give them the boot.

 

If they were smart, they would have made arrangements for any family members left behind.  I mean, you can't just waltz into someone else's country and expect there to be no consequences.  The purpose of announcing was to strike fear into the hearts of anyone who is in similar circumstances. You SHOULDN'T feel comfortable living where you are not legally permitted. By announcing, the government encourages many illegals to voluntarily go home. After all, they may be next.

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On 7/13/2019 at 9:22 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Another election promise about to be fulfilled.

 

 

I just wanted to point out that it's 8:30 Monday morning on the east coast and the "election promise" has yet to be fulfilled.  I don't suppose this will bother you in the slightest, though.  If not following through on all those other promises didn't shake your faith, I suppose nothing will.

 

TDS indeed.

[Scott 16,084]

Numerous off-topic, troll posts and those containing information which is false or factually incorrect have been removed along with replies.  

 

This is not about asylum laws, procedures or anything other than the crackdown on immigrants with a order of deportation.  

 

[roobaa01 1,617]

comment lindsey grahamm on tucker carlson 15719.....30 % of illegal alien families are fraudulent.

he is right possibly even more.

 

wbr

roobaa01

[55Jay 7,553]

On 7/14/2019 at 4:32 AM, Redline said:

How do you know?

Common sense and casual observation on the state of "news" "reporting". 

 

First, nobody was saying that families are being targeted except liberal or obviously bias media/social media with an interest in churning the sheeple for clicks.    And it wasn't being regurgitated universally by all of them, so they aren't all on the same page - as if they had any objective credibility to begin with, which they don't.   

 

Second, US Gov really doesn't work that way and, in this (and most) other cases, they have, on multiple occassions, said who it is they are targeting.  It's not "families", although that's not saying families won't be impacted.  As if being in a family somehow makes one immune to the law and law enforcement.  It doesn't.

 

 

[Credo 10,176]

2 hours ago, 55Jay said:

Common sense and casual observation on the state of "news" "reporting". 

 

First, nobody was saying that families are being targeted except liberal or obviously bias media/social media with an interest in churning the sheeple for clicks.    And it wasn't being regurgitated universally by all of them, so they aren't all on the same page - as if they had any objective credibility to begin with, which they don't.   

 

Second, US Gov really doesn't work that way and, in this (and most) other cases, they have, on multiple occassions, said who it is they are targeting.  It's not "families", although that's not saying families won't be impacted.  As if being in a family somehow makes one immune to the law and law enforcement.  It doesn't.

 

 

Not true.   Under Obama there was a case manager for families who had a member with a deportation order.   The case manager had final authority to go ahead with removal.   Whether or not a removal occurred had to do with what impact it would have on the family.   If they planned to proceed, then measures were taken to insure the children not being deported had proper care, such as with one parent remaining, with relatives etc..   The goal, in part, was to make sure that deportation did not have a big negative on a US citizen.   

 

Trump eliminated this program in 2017.   

 

Now, anyone, regardless of the impact on a family is up for deportation.  Obama was criticized for his firm stance on illegal immigration, but he largely dodge the scrutiny of the press because he wasn't generally ripping families apart.   News media, both local and national, get a lot of mileage out of those stories.   So single were high on the list, criminals (even if they were a part of family) were high on the list.   

 

Trumps policies have been much more harmful to family integrity and do not take the best interest of children who are US citizens into consideration.   

 

Some of this information can be gleaned from this link.   It's not comprehensive but gives some background:

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/immigration-ice-raids-operation

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18 hours ago, 55Jay said:

Common sense and casual observation on the state of "news" "reporting". 

 

First, nobody was saying that families are being targeted except liberal or obviously bias media/social media with an interest in churning the sheeple for clicks.    And it wasn't being regurgitated universally by all of them, so they aren't all on the same page - as if they had any objective credibility to begin with, which they don't.   

 

Second, US Gov really doesn't work that way and, in this (and most) other cases, they have, on multiple occassions, said who it is they are targeting.  It's not "families", although that's not saying families won't be impacted.  As if being in a family somehow makes one immune to the law and law enforcement.  It doesn't.

 

 

Fascinating!  I'm not sure common sense should be quoted in regards to anything about Trump, as he has little, and half of what he spouts are lies.  I know the world is against you, every news outlet lies, except for Fox.  More likely than not, the others will likely will not bow to the "alternative realty" mindset, but base reporting on facts, not without bias, but based on facts at least. 

[55Jay 7,553]

3 minutes ago, Redline said:

Fascinating!  I'm not sure common sense should be quoted in regards to anything about Trump, as he has little, and half of what he spouts are lies.  I know the world is against you, every news outlet lies, except for Fox.  More likely than not, the others will likely will not bow to the "alternative realty" mindset, but base reporting on facts, not without bias, but based on facts at least. 

I didn't mention Trump.  And I wouldn't, but I'm not surprirsed you seized upon that and went off into a rant.

 

Given the way you posed your wanna-be clever question to me earlier - how do I know they AREN'T targeting familes? -  it's fair now that I pose the same to you.  How do you know they are?  Or were? 

 

Do you have some special, G-14 classified DHS/CBP/ICE info you care to share here that NYT didn't?  So you're the guy with the secret info?  A guy in Thailand on some douche bag expat forum?  LOL!

 

We are days past this liberal MSM screaming headline.  No "familes" being targeted. 

 

Get a grip, vato.

[55Jay 7,553]

17 hours ago, Credo said:

Not true.   Under Obama there was a case manager for families who had a member with a deportation order.   The case manager had final authority to go ahead with removal.   Whether or not a removal occurred had to do with what impact it would have on the family.   If they planned to proceed, then measures were taken to insure the children not being deported had proper care, such as with one parent remaining, with relatives etc..   The goal, in part, was to make sure that deportation did not have a big negative on a US citizen.   

 

Trump eliminated this program in 2017.   

 

Now, anyone, regardless of the impact on a family is up for deportation.  Obama was criticized for his firm stance on illegal immigration, but he largely dodge the scrutiny of the press because he wasn't generally ripping families apart.   News media, both local and national, get a lot of mileage out of those stories.   So single were high on the list, criminals (even if they were a part of family) were high on the list.   

 

Trumps policies have been much more harmful to family integrity and do not take the best interest of children who are US citizens into consideration.   

 

Some of this information can be gleaned from this link.   It's not comprehensive but gives some background:

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/immigration-ice-raids-operation

Thanks.  Buzzfeed isn't something I care to indulge in.  I'll stick to CNN and MSNBC when I need my fix of BS. 

[Credo 10,176]

On 7/19/2019 at 2:49 AM, 55Jay said:

Thanks.  Buzzfeed isn't something I care to indulge in.  I'll stick to CNN and MSNBC when I need my fix of BS. 

You're free to fact check it.   Perhaps the police report would sooth your nerves?