rooster59 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Israeli education minister favours gay 'conversion therapy' By Dan Williams FILE PHOTO: Israel's Education Minister Rafi Peretz arrives to attend the weekly cabinet meeting in Jerusalem June 24, 2019. Menahem Kahana/Pool via REUTERS/File Photo JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel's education minister voiced support on Saturday for so-called gay "conversion therapy", drawing a disavowal from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose government's religious-rightist tilt has worried liberals a home and backers abroad. Conversion therapy, an attempt to alter sexual orientation or gender identity through psychological, spiritual and, in extreme cases, physical means, has been widely discredited in the West and condemned by professional health associations such as the American Medical Association as potentially harmful. Rafael Peretz, an Orthodox rabbi and head of the ultranationalist United Right party who assumed the education portfolio in the Netanyahu-led coalition last month, said in a television interview he believed conversion therapy can work. "I have a very deep familiarity with the issue of education, and I have also done this," he told Israel's Channel 12 TV. Giving an example of a gay person he said he had tended to, Peretz said: "First of all, I embraced him. I said very warm things to him. I told him, 'Let's think. Let's study. And let's contemplate.' The objective is first of all for him to know himself well ... and then he will decide." The remarks sparked furore in Israel's centre-left opposition, which ahead of a September election has sought to cast Netanyahu as enabling Orthodox indoctrination in a country whose majority Jews mostly identify as secular or of less stringent religious observance. Israel's LGBT Task Force, an advocacy group, demanded Peretz be fired, saying in a statement his views were "benighted". Shortly after the interview aired at the end of the Jewish Sabbath, Netanyahu said he spoke to Peretz for "clarification". "The education minister's remarks regarding the pride community are unacceptable to me and do not reflect the position of the government that I head," the premier said in a statement. It was the second flap Peretz had caused in less than a week, after Israeli media reported that he had told fellow Cabinet members on Tuesday that the intermarriage of Jews and gentiles in the Diaspora amounted to a "second Holocaust". The comparison stirred up anger among U.S. Jews, who are mostly non-Orthodox, and drew a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League, which said such statements cheapened the Holocaust. Speaking to Channel 12, Peretz described himself as striving to balance respect for others, no matter their sexual orientation, with his duties as a religious leader. "I honour everyone as people. I admit that I, personally - I am a rabbi of Israel. Our Torah tells us other things. But that does not mean that I look about now and give them grades," he said. (Writing by Dan Williams; editing by Jonathan Oatis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-14 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Sure, choose to take the ugly and weird news from some wacky religious nutter in israel and publish it and keep the positive news well hidden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Well with all religions it seems that they are so out of touch with reality. I am unsure if there is any positive news though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 great , how do i join to become a gay..........pretty sure ill be the only one in the village Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: so out of touch with reality mostly by about 2019 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 A inflammatory off topic post and replies to it have been removed. A repeat of it will result in a formal warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Israel's education minister voiced support on Saturday for so-called gay "conversion therapy" To me it seems like this is the one israeli in most need of education, and he became education minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, ezzra said: Sure, choose to take the ugly and weird news from some wacky religious nutter in israel and publish it and keep the positive news well hidden... He's the Education Minister? not some 'wacky religious nutter'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Chazar said: great , how do i join to become a gay..........pretty sure ill be the only one in the village Ignorant post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheMook Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 That guy is gay AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Looks like he is getting his rocks off just by thinking about that "therapy". I bet he is drooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Chazar said: great , how do i join to become a gay..........pretty sure ill be the only one in the village Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said: Well with all religions it seems that they are so out of touch with reality. Possibly because none of them are based on reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, BobBKK said: He's the Education Minister? not some 'wacky religious nutter'. The man is a religious zealot, he has experience in education as much as him being an astronaut..More like one of those political horse trading dealings appointment to create a coalitions big enough to to form a ruling government... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, BobBKK said: He's the Education Minister? not some 'wacky religious nutter'. Obviously, he's both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatfromwyoming Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Echoes of Tony Perkins, Trump’s “pro-life advisory council,” VP Mike Pence and Mike Huckabee- all preaching the same message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, ezzra said: The man is a religious zealot, he has experience in education as much as him being an astronaut..More like one of those political horse trading dealings appointment to create a coalitions big enough to to form a ruling government... He headed a small pre-military school/college for 15 years or so. As for being an astronaut, not quite, but he was also a helicopter pilot. Horse trading, sure - just that sometimes it does get too much, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, JimmyTheMook said: That guy is gay AF. 50 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: Looks like he is getting his rocks off just by thinking about that "therapy". I bet he is drooling. Here's a buddy holding similar views... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Elon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, ezzra said: The man is a religious zealot, he has experience in education as much as him being an astronaut..More like one of those political horse trading dealings appointment to create a coalitions big enough to to form a ruling government... No doubt but he's the Minister and that's a major concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfin Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, ezzra said: Sure, choose to take the ugly and weird He does have those looks, almost half human! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: Israel's LGBT Task Force That like some Gay commando unit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, ezzra said: Sure, choose to take the ugly and weird news from some wacky religious nutter in israel and publish it and keep the positive news well hidden... More likely reason is that there is no positive news emanating from that oppressive little corner of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, pornprong said: More likely reason is that there is no positive news emanating from that oppressive little corner of the world. Poppycock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Chazar said: great , how do i join to become a gay..........pretty sure ill be the only one in the village I got the pun. Little Britain...Love the show and I'm from the USA. Computer says No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Poppycock! What's positive about that? I'm not a religious guy but if I were, I'd probably make "pride" chief among all sins. Everything bad seems to stem from it. What's interesting is some people procliam their "pride" about who they are (which of course they had no choice in) , which is no achievement; while at the same time calling other misguided folks who proclaim their pride about however they were born as, as being hateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: Poppycock! I was poised to protest most vehemently, unfortunately, you seem to have found perhaps the only news emanating from Israel that passes muster. I wonder what the these follows, probably no strangers to persecution, think of the Palestinian situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, pornprong said: I was poised to protest most vehemently, unfortunately, you seem to have found perhaps the only news emanating from Israel that passes muster. I wonder what the these follows, probably no strangers to persecution, think of the Palestinian situation? I'm not an expert on that but I do know enough to know that extremely friendly "fraternization" between gay Jews and Arabs is common at least in Tel Aviv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 hours ago, ezzra said: Sure, choose to take the ugly and weird news from some wacky religious nutter in israel and publish it and keep the positive news well hidden... Just like they do with Iran then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 The man is obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed, in spite of being a government minister, but not unsurprising in a very conservative government, headed by a very conservative leader. Has not read his own legislation it seems, or trying to turn back the clock Same-sex sexual activity legal?:Legal since 1988 (but no record of enforcement of "buggery" law before this, and the Attorney General declared that laws against homosexuality would not be enforced in 1963)Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Early leaders of the Jewish religion had a zero tolerance policy for gays in their community. Periodic raids to round them up and take them to the edge to their country...turn them loose with a stern warning that they would not be welcome to return...It is slightly better now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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