Gonzo the Face Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 As I get older I find that I have to agree with a great man who said " A mime is a terrible thing to waste." Words spoken by Marcel Marceau. As I get older I think I am loosing my mime. So I find that I would like to request help from the TV Brain Trust again. I have a guesthouse and restaurant, as many of you know, for over 20 years now. Close to two years back I was visited by the powers that be and was told that after operating as a guesthouse for over 20 years , I could no longer rent rooms to my customers by the night, but they would let me rent by the month. Well having the vast majority of clients who are backpackers and trekkers, who don't stay for more than a few days, that pretty much wiped out the guesthouse clientele. For years we have had a relatively good restaurant business having a very interesting menu and, as our customers report, very good and very economical food. Very honestly I can say that we have not had a food complaint in the total time being here. The guesthouse business did supply a great percentage of our food business. We have had a very good following from various groups in the come, stay for a few years and then return home, categories. But they seem to not be coming to Chiang Mai as much, any longer. What I am saying overall is that business has slowed to a trickle, to become more of a worry than like a labor of love. Some time back we even advertised on this forum, offering a 10% discount to all identifying members. Many of the members are no longer with us or no longer here. But any TV member giving their TV name still gets the discount. Groups for breakfast are very desirable but harder and harder to find. Heaven forbid, I have even thought of selling., but this has been my home for about 30 years now and I find it hard to envision moving. So believing that two minds are better than one, it stands to reason a couple hundred are better than two. So if you would, how about helping a former gimp out. OK Brain Trust , What can you suggest to turn things around. Any suggestions??? Thanks in advance. Gonzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 For have the possibility to offer rooms on a dialy basis, you will need a hotel license. I guess thats the only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Lets assume that the daily rate is 500 baht, but ur not allowed to rent by the day, only the month. Draw up contracts where the customer agrees to stay for the month for a total monthly rental of 500 baht. If they choose to check out after 1 day, then that's fine. You have followed the letter of the law and you can charge what you like for your rooms. It is your business after all. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Why would the "powers that be" single you out for persecution? Do everything according to Thai law...if that does not work...hire a good lawyer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, thequietman said: Lets assume that the daily rate is 500 baht, but ur not allowed to rent by the day, only the month. Draw up contracts where the customer agrees to stay for the month for a total monthly rental of 500 baht. If they choose to check out after 1 day, then that's fine. You have followed the letter of the law and you can charge what you like for your rooms. It is your business after all. ???? Don't think I haven't thought along those lines. Buuut I am a falang and have been living in Thailand for any years, They would get me. That may work back home but I don't want to chance it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said: Why would the "powers that be" single you out for persecution? Do everything according to Thai law...if that does not work...hire a good lawyer... Ya gotta learn to think Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoJohn Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I think a lot of people aren't aware of frozen food items you keep in your freezer. I've been taking advantage of this and it gives me more options for easy to heat meals and desserts. Maybe I'm an exception since I eat most of my meals at home. It wasn't until I asked how you can keep so many items on your menu and that I can buy them still frozen in portions, so if you advertised this, it may open up more business to people like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 We have had to jump through hoops with our business to comply with health and safety and obtain licences, as does everyone else. So, you know what I am going to say..... Why dont you address the issues required to get the licence and stop whinging on about it or sell it and let someone else gleefully tackle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 14 hours ago, eyecatcher said: We have had to jump through hoops with our business to comply with health and safety and obtain licences, as does everyone else. So, you know what I am going to say..... Why don't you address the issues required to get the licence and stop whinging on about it or sell it and let someone else gleefully tackle it. .....so you think I am "whinging" . Weeelll just maybe you don't know what the current difficulty and current confusion of getting a license for my type of business is. You know what ... when HE designed us, he designed the brain much larger than the mouth. So, you know what I am going to say..... Its a shame that some people on this forum seem to get that backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Gonzo , did you check on the 2 year waiver for licenses under Article 44. Did you pay your Tesabahn taxes yet for this year? If they let you pay for the one which is a piece of harder white paper (something like Safety and Waste on title); that will mean they are ignoring the issue of license. It would be well worth checking this, it could well mean you are fine for the next 2 years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Sounds like you are more of a "Homestay" operation than a hotel. https://www.tci-thaijo.org/index.php/TBLJ/article/view/112466 Maybe the answer to your problems is to use the "homestay" regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 21 hours ago, Gonzo the Face said: Ya gotta learn to think Thai. Then Chinese and Indians are the answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 8:45 PM, eyecatcher said: We have had to jump through hoops with our business to comply with health and safety and obtain licences, as does everyone else. So, you know what I am going to say..... Why dont you address the issues required to get the licence and stop whinging on about it or sell it and let someone else gleefully tackle it. You simply can't in many cases, the buildings and structures aren't build to be compatible with the hotel laws or in other cases they straight out refuse to issue a license or it takes years. Many want to comply and paying a bit of money for the licensing fees is not their problem, if it was that easy - but it isn't. Only thing you could get away with is the under 4 rooms/20 guests rule where you wouldnt need a license, doesnt work for most people tho. Getting a hotel license is no straightforward process at all, i guess your business isn't a hotel, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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