RickBradford Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, bristolboy said: But how does that relate to your calling me a social justice warrior? It's just your Pavlovian response when there's no other way out for you. It doesn't. I was answering a different poster. Among the commonest traits of SJWs is fabricating things with which to smear people they disagree with, and you have given more than enough evidence of your willingness to do that. It may be that you don't see yourself as an SJW; in which case, it's just a very good disguise. But if you feel you'd rather not be referred to in that way, I would certainly respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Perhaps my favorite is the Australian socialist politician Tanya Plibersek, who managed to weave together the consensus and catastrophe narratives into an embarrassing TV segment on a panel discussion show. Quote Plibersek: There is a serious threat to our economy and a serious threat to our environment of not acting. In environmental terms we’re looking at losing the Great Barrier Reef, losing Kakadu National Park, losing the ability to feed ourselves because our . . . Peter Dutton: To feed ourselves? Plibersek: . . . our fruit and vegetable growing areas . . . Brendan O’Neill: This is the politics of fear. Dutton: Taking it to a new level. O’Neill: If you don’t support our policies, we will die and starve and the Barrier reef will disappear. Plibersek: Actually, it’s called scientific consensus . . . O’Neill: Right. OK, yeah. https://www.abc.net.au/qanda/murdoch-media-and-mad-men/10662428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Plibersek socialist. Lol. centre left does not a socialist make. You really dont get it. The science is settled. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, RickBradford said: Perhaps my favorite is the Australian socialist politician Tanya Plibersek, who managed to weave together the consensus and catastrophe narratives into an embarrassing TV segment on a panel discussion show. https://www.abc.net.au/qanda/murdoch-media-and-mad-men/10662428 Dont know oneill. Dutton is a hard alt right, worse than miller bannon and trump. Barrier reef is dying, thats proven. Its already agreed, the science is settled. Give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bristolboy said: And I didn't know that Greta Thunberg is now the new leader. Was she elected or was it a coup? In the past 7 months, Thunberg has given speeches to the annual UN climate conference COP24 in Poland; the World Economic Forum in Davos; the European Parliament in Brussels; the UK Houses of Parliament and the R20 Austrian World Summit. No other person comes close; so, yes, I would say that makes her the leader of the global climate movement. Even the Pope has been permitted to meet her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RickBradford said: In the past 7 months, Thunberg has given speeches to the annual UN climate conference COP24 in Poland; the World Economic Forum in Davos; the European Parliament in Brussels; the UK Houses of Parliament and the R20 Austrian World Summit. No other person comes close; so, yes, I would say that makes her the leader of the global climate movement. Even the Pope has been permitted to meet her. The top scientists of the world are the leaders. They have an overehelming concensus minus a few oddballs that you get in any profession. Perhaps you should voice your concerns to them for consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 2:18 PM, Chomper Higgot said: The mainstream media, measured by readership/viewership, is overwhelmingly right wing, not at all ‘progressive’. Source, if you have one, please? Presumably, not the weird YouGov report of March, 2017. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RickBradford said: It doesn't. I was answering a different poster. Among the commonest traits of SJWs is fabricating things with which to smear people they disagree with, and you have given more than enough evidence of your willingness to do that. It may be that you don't see yourself as an SJW; in which case, it's just a very good disguise. But if you feel you'd rather not be referred to in that way, I would certainly respect that. 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.' https://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php Now in your case, the question is whether you can you make the social justice part of SJW to mean what you want it to mean instead of what it does mean. Social justice is a concept of fair and just relations between the individual and society.. In Western as well as in older Asian cultures, the concept of social justice has often referred to the process of ensuring that individuals fulfill their societal roles and receive what was their due from society.[1][2][3] In the current global grassroots movements for social justice, the emphasis has been on the breaking of barriers for social mobility, the creation of safety nets and economic justice." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice Since the aspect of climate change I've been addressing is how it affects it affects the entire planet, I fail to understand how I can be defined on the basis of this as a social justice warrior. Have I made any references to the issues mentioned above? Maybe you're just Touretting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, RickBradford said: In the past 7 months, Thunberg has given speeches to the annual UN climate conference COP24 in Poland; the World Economic Forum in Davos; the European Parliament in Brussels; the UK Houses of Parliament and the R20 Austrian World Summit. No other person comes close; so, yes, I would say that makes her the leader of the global climate movement. Even the Pope has been permitted to meet her. A leader command followers. Has she been issuing a lot of commands lately? Does she even have an organization through which she could give commands. Give it up already. This is just more of your nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, bristolboy said: A leader command followers. Oh, come off it. A leader can be someone who lights the way for others, a moral exemplar who persuades other people to change their ways. In the climate debate, we routinely hear the phrase that the UK, or the US, or even Australia, must "lead the way" on climate change. There is no way the UK can command China to stop emitting CO2, or even to curb its emissions. That doesn't stop themselves regarding themselves as leaders. Climate change: May urges G20 to follow UK lead on CO2. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48810060 Nor did it stop Obama proclaiming his administration would "lead" in this area. Quote In June 2013, President Obama outlined the Climate Action Plan — the steps his Administration would take to cut carbon pollution, help prepare the United States for the impacts of climate change, and continue to lead international efforts to address global climate change. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/energy/climate-change The concept of moral leadership is well understood -- in the free-thinking world, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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