webfact Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Biometrics system yielding results, says Immigration chief Picture: Daily New The word "biometrics" was being bandied about everywhere yesterday when acting immigration chief Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang hosted a press conference. He said that the new system - that just came online at Thai airports and other immigration points - was helping stop people on fake passports and those wanted on other notices. Daily News listed the following cases, some of which have already featured on Thaivisa. 1. Mr Soe, 47, from Myanmar was arrested on the 24th of May with a fake Malaysian passport on his way to Manila. 2. Mr Akouani, 21, and Miss Fofana, 22, from the Ivory Coast were stopped on June 10th using fake Mauritius passports to check in at the Lufthansa desk on their way to work in Frankfurt. In this case biometrics technology was unable to read a microchip. The arrested couple said they had paid 200 Euros for each of the fake passports. 3. Mr Amith, 41, from India was stopped using a fake Singaporean passport to fly Air China to Canada. Biometrics helped again. He said he had paid a Nepail called Baba $1,000 for the passport. 4. Liang Jerm Bo, 32, (of unknown nationality) was stopped on July 14th and found to have a counterfeit bio-data page in his passport. He was coming into Thailand at the time. He said that he had paid a Taiwanese man $20,000 (or around 600,000 baht) to help him get into Thailand from Taiwan. 5. Miss Li, a forty year old Chinese woman, was stopped at Phuket airport outbound on Friday when she was found - using the biometrics technology - to be on a red notice. She had been mentioned as a person wanted in China for fraud involving 100 million Yuan. Daily News repeated requests from immigration to report illegal foreigners on the 1178 hotline or through the immigration website. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-07-16 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wow, FIVE people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketshrew Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, webfact said: He said he had paid a Nepail called Baba $1,000 for the passport. Baba's brother Buba awaits you on the inside ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taichiplanet Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, wgdanson said: Wow, FIVE people. only 400 Million Baht per person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Most people I know are trying to get out not in ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, webfact said: Daily News repeated requests from immigration to report illegal foreigners on the 1178 hotline or through the immigration website. But what ever you do don't report illegal Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Good on the immigration people in their efforts to weed out the riff ruffs and the undesirable, maybe this way they will leave the good and serious people in peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, ezzra said: Good on the immigration people in their efforts to weed out the riff ruffs and the undesirable, maybe this way they will leave the good and serious people in peace... Who will run the country then?Who will be left to turn off the lights?Are we not good and not serious types disrupting your peace that much that it causes you distress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Five nabbed, 500k inconvenienced by slow system. Maibpenrai, let 'em eat cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 hours ago, wgdanson said: Wow, FIVE people. "In this case biometrics technology was unable to read a microchip."... not even 5. In this case it was a dodgy chip, nothing to do with biometrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Phuketshrew said: Baba's brother Buba awaits you on the inside ???? Tut tut! The correct phonetic spelling is Bawbaw???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 7 hours ago, wgdanson said: Wow, FIVE people. Five examples. Each showing a subtle difference in how biometrics helped. But carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Does any reader at all on Thai Visa really expect the Thais in government to ever accept that the new bio metrics system is not giving them outstanding value for money? That would mean they made a mistake or bought the wrong system....That won't happen! I am sill confused as to how it works but from what we can see, it seems in the main, to be catching fake passports. To catch a blacklisted person who has changed their name, they surely must have this persons previous name and fingerprints on their biometric system. Am I right? How long have they been taking fingerprints of blacklisted deportees and putting them in the new system? Surely only the last couple of years? That must be the way the caught the Indian recently, who managed to get back in the country with a new passport with changed name before the biometrics system was rolled out nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I remember something about the UK airport scanners failed to scan many passports when they first started introducing chips into passports. I hope they (Thais) understand that the chip in passports doesnt always work in the scanning machines. I would hate for anyone to be detained and deported due to a failed chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkleMoooose Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, NightSky said: I remember something about the UK airport scanners failed to scan many passports when they first started introducing chips into passports. I hope they (Thais) understand that the chip in passports doesnt always work in the scanning machines. I would hate for anyone to be detained and deported due to a failed chip. I have a brand new UK passport and am rejected at the fast gates at Heathrow. Every. Single. Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
503726 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 What biometric data do they use? I am not really up on this subject, it would be great to know more about it if anyone else is. It seems to me that the European border system use facial recognition. Is that right? It took 3 sets of photos to get my last passport, the automatic readers have a camera I the presentation booth & it would make sense to have sophisticated detection systems in the walk ways to control (if not linked to planes & the departure airport). Will facial (& perhaps iris?) recognition, be the future for identity tracking & if so why don't they co-ordinate the approach between countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: He said that the new system - that just came online at Thai airports and other immigration points - was helping stop people on fake passports and those wanted on other notices. Re-newed my annual visa early this month at my local office, apparently overnight the new system had been installed, all new computers, monitors and scanners etc greeted the 3 officers on arrival for work. It was going to be the first day of operation, until the system wouldn't boot up... even the 90 day reporting was down. An hour later after much brow-beating it was back to the old system again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, 503726 said: What biometric data do they use? I am not really up on this subject, it would be great to know more about it if anyone else is. It seems to me that the European border system use facial recognition. Is that right? It took 3 sets of photos to get my last passport, the automatic readers have a camera I the presentation booth & it would make sense to have sophisticated detection systems in the walk ways to control (if not linked to planes & the departure airport). Will facial (& perhaps iris?) recognition, be the future for identity tracking & if so why don't they co-ordinate the approach between countries? You can check what's on the chip if you have an android phone with NFC using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.innovalor.nfciddocshowcase&hl=en I've used the automated facial scanning gates in Finland and Australia. Worked fine, although the Finnish robot was slow in getting the camera focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Fine, but why do they need a full set of fingerprints, which is what's apparently causing the delays at Immigration? UK and Schengen use just one finger (and not the one you'd like to hold up to the IOs here at times????????) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 22 hours ago, wgdanson said: Wow, FIVE people. 5 people and only one passed through Thailand. How can he quote arrests made in other countries this way as if he is claiming they were caught here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Nice for the $$$$ spent grabbed 5? guys out but.... How many disgruntled tourist will remember standing 2+ hours in lines at Suvarnabhumi airport after 10+ hour flights? Will that have any economical impact on an already failing tourism in Thailand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Yes - yielding results alright. Much longer to get through outbound immi! Or at least it was last night. I worked out that the average processing time per person was 1.5 minutes, which doesn't sound a lot. But if you've got 15 people in every queue when you arrive ..... go figure the wait! I was given the 4 fingers right hand then four fingers left hand then two thumbs requirement. I thought that tourists were only doing four fingers right hand. May be wrong on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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