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Thanathorn admits Thais cannot rely on foreigners to fight for democracy

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1 hour ago, petemoss said:

I agree, if you are talking about the Thai Elite. Wealthy Thai Chin family, born into relative entitlement. If he ever did get into power, I'm sure his first task would be to increase his own family's wealth and power. Remember Taksin?

 Read Thanathorn's history, he's not a thaksin.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Fex Bluse said:

Anyone who understands Thailand might suspect Khun Thanathorn is just playing to the necessary Thai anti-western sentiment. 

 

He was recently in EU to bolster support to democracy. 

 

Meanwhile, here in Thailand, his opposition were fomenting the anti-western sentiments of Thais, saying things like

 

... "don't let the international community mess up our Thai efforts" and

 

... "don't allow westerners to meddle in Thai affairs" 

 

Now he's back in Thailand doing the necessary 'farangs are bad routine' to win back political points to prove he is a "real" Thai. 

 

For the people who long thought he is some kind of newly modern Thai savior, or even represents significant progress, I still encourage you all to think deeper about the real soul of the nation which is decidedly xenophobic. 

 

The young Thais dislike western ideas sns influence just as much as their grandparents, despite their superficial interests in iPhones and high fashion. 

 

Thanathorn is probably just like all other Thais before him. No significant differences. 

"....Now he's back in Thailand doing the necessary 'farangs are bad routine' to win back political points to prove he is a "real" Thai. ...."

 

When / where did he say 'farangs are bad....'?

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4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 Read Thanathorn's history, he's not a thaksin.

 

 

I agree. I have never encountered a Thai politician like Thanathorn before in all my years in or associated with Thailand. He really is a breath of fresh air. Could he eventually prove to be a sell-out? Of course it is possible. But so far - I see not even the slightest nano-sign of that.

I believe he is far and away the best hope for Thailand's future.

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Thais have to do it for themselves, if they don't like what is on offer now its up to them to change things.

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1 hour ago, Lucius verus said:

Its not our fault. Why would farangs want to help ungrateful Thais anymore? All they want from us is money and free homes for their poor families.

Soi dogs are higher up the pecking order than farangs.

What do farangs legally own?

You want democracy then get rid of all the thousands of useless army generals and bring back Thaksin. He's greedy but millions  love him. Good for the economy.

You're on your own Thais!

You dug your own hole so lie in it.

 So you believe Thailand is just poor families in esan who get some support from a farang.

 

Time to get out and about and see that Thailand is a much bigger much more comprehensive picture, all different to the above.

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thanathorn admits Thais cannot rely on foreigners to fight for democracy

can't help, no work permit

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Nobody can help Thailand in his so called "Democracy"

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2 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Nobody can help Thailand in his so called "Democracy"

So what do you think his (Khun Thanathorn's) democracy is?

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“We cannot get this society from the international community. There is only one way to achieve this. We must build it by ourselves and this is the mission of the Thai people.

 

   How could an Alien be helpful? 

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37 minutes ago, Eligius said:

I am surprised that many posters took Thanathorn's words to refer to us ex-pats here in Thailand. I don't think he meant us at all. I am sure he was referring to the 'international community'. And he is right: they are NOT going to help the Thais get freedom back. Look at how some of the biggest international players in the entire world are not condemning (far from it!) the recent fake election in Thailand - but are salivating over the opportunity to continue to 'do business' with the Thai faux-elite.

That's my impression too that he was referring to the democratic foreign governments. I too am disappointed with the failures of foreign governments for not coming out with stronger condemnation of the recent sham election and the decline in democracy over the last decade. In any case, Thailand will probably ignore the strong words from the foreign governments. Sanctions may be too harsh and not necessary work. Bottom line, Thais will have to fight their own battle and hopefully starting with Thanathorn. 

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7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So what do you think his (Khun Thanathorn's) democracy is?

Actions speak louder than words. We will only know the answer to that if and when he comes to power.

 

A bit like Taksin, although I do think Taksin is the best leader Thailand has had, that's a very low bar.

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21 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"....Now he's back in Thailand doing the necessary 'farangs are bad routine' to win back political points to prove he is a "real" Thai. ...."

 

When / where did he say 'farangs are bad....'?

Thais, as a rule, don't communicate directly. 

 

Their communication must be 'read between the lines'.

 

I regard his 'foreigners will not help' statements not for their face value but as saying,

 

" there is no need for us to rely on foreigner powers, and I am not relying on foreign powers, and we all know foreign powers should not meddle in Thai affairs " 

 

I think we know how the elite are rabid anti foreigner in this regard, so I interpret his statements thusly. 

 

Thais are not westerners. They don't mean what they say. 

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Thailand  dont have large oils reserves, so there is no interest for Uncle Sam to export their democracy.

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13 minutes ago, petemoss said:

Actions speak louder than words. We will only know the answer to that if and when he comes to power.

 

A bit like Taksin, although I do think Taksin is the best leader Thailand has had, that's a very low bar.

  ?

 

14 minutes ago, petemoss said:

Actions speak louder than words. We will only know the answer to that if and when he comes to power.

 

A bit like Taksin, although I do think Taksin is the best leader Thailand has had, that's a very low bar.

So how about answering my question:

 

So what do you think his (Khun Thanathorn's) democracy is?

 

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40 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"....Now he's back in Thailand doing the necessary 'farangs are bad routine' to win back political points to prove he is a "real" Thai. ...."

 

When / where did he say 'farangs are bad....'?

Yes I like to know that as well why does he talk to me? he knows I am a farang

and I am on his friends list

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