webfact Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thaksin crossing into new territories (Photo) Thaksin Shinawatra FC Facebook page That Thaksin Shinawatra will not hold his birthday party this year could have been dismissed as immaterial, but for the fact that there are other intriguing “signals” as well. The Pheu Thai Party, for the first time, is having a leadership structure that is not focused entirely on his clan; his key strategists seem to be retreating from view; and those who strategically left to join the now-dissolved Thai Raksa Chart Party have not returned. All point toward what has become the political question of the hour: Is Thaksin washing his hand of Pheu Thai, or even politics entirely? Apart from the aforementioned “signs”, there is the mammoth issue of constitutional amendment, which will be harder for pro-change politicians to push for if he is seen as pulling the strings. And yet there is something else as well: the next Bangkok gubernatorial election, in which a Pheu Thai candidate will benefit more from his “absence” than “presence”. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thaksin-crossing-into-new-territories/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-07-18 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 A man yielding immense power and wealth, the one thing he would dearly love to do and he can't or won't, the step on Thai soil and meet family, friend and supporters, and always on his guards from who knows whom might want to hurt him, is it all worth it, the power and wealth but to be cut out from everything you love?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMW Overlander Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 With riches like that, instead of enjoying golden years of his life with friends and family, he pursues politics....for the sake of power and ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 he dropped from the first 10 of the most rich in thailand. So there are richer than him, and that many times. his party won the election, yet was not allowed to form government, so those 10 richer than him do have much more combined power, than him. now, after swearing of the government, the king is the head of state - that's according to new constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Penthouse politics are in every corner of the earth will eventually end badly ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, BMW Overlander said: With riches like that, instead of enjoying golden years of his life with friends and family, he pursues politics....for the sake of power and ego. No! He is solely interested in the well being of all Thai people - how could even think for one minute it is about power and ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaoleBoy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, BMW Overlander said: With riches like that, instead of enjoying golden years of his life with friends and family, he pursues politics....for the sake of power and ego. Much can be said about the men in charge now ... The man in diapers leading is the epitome of power hungry and ego person (can't call him a politician). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, BMW Overlander said: With riches like that, instead of enjoying golden years of his life with friends and family, he pursues politics....for the sake of power and ego. So what do other rich people do in their old age? (eg The Walmart king). My perception - but what would I know? - is that they keep doing the things they've done all their lives, stoking the fires of wealth & ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: All point toward what has become the political question of the hour: Is Thaksin washing his hand of Pheu Thai, or even politics entirely? With the passage of time & change in political figures his once solid grip is slipping, time for this dinosaur to go to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, HaoleBoy said: Much can be said about the men in charge now ... The man in diapers leading is the epitome of power hungry and ego person (can't call him a politician). Only this thread happens to be about the criminal Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, hotchilli said: With the passage of time & change in political figures his once solid grip is slipping, time for this dinosaur to go to rest. With all that wealth stashed away, not just his but the whole clan, you'd think so. But I guess that self entitled arrogance and planet size ego won't let him. Classic example of someone believing their own propaganda and lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: With the passage of time & change in political figures his once solid grip is slipping, time for this dinosaur to go to rest. did you tell that to Prem, before he died at age of 100 and actively influencing thai politics to his last days? Tell that as well to all politicians, older than taksin. look at the average age of senate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, londonthai said: he dropped from the first 10 of the most rich in thailand. So there are richer than him, and that many times. his party won the election, yet was not allowed to form government, so those 10 richer than him do have much more combined power, than him. now, after swearing of the government, the king is the head of state - that's according to new constitution PT not being allowed to form a government will definitely have further negative impact on his wealth. How sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: With the passage of time & change in political figures his once solid grip is slipping, time for this dinosaur to go to rest. He will be told to go away if his parties lose badly in the election just like Ahbisit. The formula still works when his parties keep winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dogmatix said: PT not being allowed to form a government will definitely have further negative impact on his wealth. How sad! Some how his wealth actually increase from 1.6B in 2014 to 1.8B in March 2019. Not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Some how his wealth actually increase from 1.6B in 2014 to 1.8B in March 2019. Not too shabby. He netted a pretty penny from the fake exports in the rice pledging scam. That was worth at least B20bn shared mainly between him and the Siam Indigo shyster who also is also a fugitive from justice. He was happy to see his cronies get 40 years prison stretches for that and his sister have to flee the country too, just to make an extra few bob on top of what he had already grabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, Dogmatix said: He netted a pretty penny from the fake exports in the rice pledging scam. That was worth at least B20bn shared mainly between him and the Siam Indigo shyster who also is also a fugitive from justice. He was happy to see his cronies get 40 years prison stretches for that and his sister have to flee the country too, just to make an extra few bob on top of what he had already grabbed. Thought it was more but really without proof, who knows. Don’t the junta will love to have your evidence to confiscate his assets and they will not accused of fabricating the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 hours ago, ezzra said: A man yielding immense power and wealth, the one thing he would dearly love to do and he can't or won't, the step on Thai soil and meet family, friend and supporters, and always on his guards from who knows whom might want to hurt him, is it all worth it, the power and wealth but to be cut out from everything you love?... If you want to emulate the Suharto clan in Indonesia or the Marcos clan in Pilipinas and don't succeed, then you have a problem. He made his own bed, sleep in it. He made enough trouble and damage for Thailand, and let's not forget the 2000+ deaths of so-called drug dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: He will be told to go away if his parties lose badly in the election just like Ahbisit. The formula still works when his parties keep winning. with him picking up the tab and keeping many of these so-called politicians in a job of sorts, can't see them telling the paymaster anything other than what a wonderful person he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Some how his wealth actually increase from 1.6B in 2014 to 1.8B in March 2019. Not too shabby. For these rich that is Peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 If I had his wealth the last thin I would do is even try to reignite the old political flame. Just enjoy my retirement in style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, natway09 said: If I had his wealth the last thin I would do is even try to reignite the old political flame. Just enjoy my retirement in style He probably enjoys power more than wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, hansnl said: He made enough trouble and damage for Thailand, and let's not forget the 2000+ deaths of so-called drug dealers. No loss unless you're a drug dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, hansnl said: For these rich that is Peanuts. I got a theory that the government artificially strengthened the Baht so that his wealth is dramatically reduced in local peanuts currency, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Artisi said: with him picking up the tab and keeping many of these so-called politicians in a job of sorts, can't see them telling the paymaster anything other than what a wonderful person he is. In doing so broke 2 Political Party laws in source of funding and outside influence which the NACC will normally intensify their diligence to nail him. Nothing so far, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, BritManToo said: No loss unless you're a drug dealer. Unfortunately, not all those exterminated at his directive were dealers, never were dealers and not potential dealers - it seems many personal scores were settled under the guise of the drug clean-up, all to no avail of course - just increased the turn over of others, many who were undertaking the clean-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I don’t’ think any of you know his wealth, he still sees his family, I personally wouldn’t worry about him. He’s good where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 hours ago, ezzra said: A man yielding immense power and wealth, the one thing he would dearly love to do and he can't or won't, the step on Thai soil and meet family, friend and supporters, and always on his guards from who knows whom might want to hurt him, is it all worth it, the power and wealth but to be cut out from everything you love?... He has complete freedom of movement except within Thailand, and plenty of money. He can meet people anywhere he likes, and see his family anytime. I’m sure he’s not too sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Classic Ray said: He has complete freedom of movement except within Thailand, and plenty of money. He can meet people anywhere he likes, and see his family anytime. I’m sure he’s not too sad. Don't forget to factor in the "loss of face" to someone like him it is an insurmountable insult to be denied access to Thailand, his loss of position in Royal Thai police, and stripped of his Royal entitlements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonowl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Whatever is said on here about him, if he was allowed back he'd still win a free and fair election so he must appeal to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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