MeePeeMai Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, philba said: If you're unhappy now, wait until people start talking about Article 37. http://nonthaburi.immigration.go.th/en/2018/12/01/พ-ร-บ-คนเข้าเมือง/ Part of it states you're supposed to inform them BEFORE you go out of province for more than 24 hours. This country gets funnier and funnier ona daily basis. I guess it's getting easier and easier to predict their next move. No more surprises from now on because we can all say "I knew that was going to happen!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, philba said: Part of it states you're supposed to inform them BEFORE you go out of province for more than 24 hours. Which part is that? I could only see the same requirements as for TM30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangtip2 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I wonder if you stay overnight in a hospital if they are required to report that to immigration ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, philba said: If you're unhappy now, wait until people start talking about Article 37. http://nonthaburi.immigration.go.th/en/2018/12/01/พ-ร-บ-คนเข้าเมือง/ Part of it states you're supposed to inform them BEFORE you go out of province for more than 24 hours. This country gets funnier and funnier ona daily basis. Yes but this is ok because the cartoon IO say it is for our own safety, life security and property. If they start pulling this BS, then the cards are getting put on the table more and more that we are really looked at as criminals, but stating just the opposite. I for one will never ever ever adhere to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Martyp said: I would think that if you arrive at CW at 1:30pm that it shouldn't be surprising that there was a significant line. I've seen other posts about the TM30 section where the wait was 1-2 hours. I've done 90-day reports in 20 minutes and up to 3 hours. The waits at CW are highly variable. At least commend them for having a policy of staying open late. Hard to find a reason to commend them for anything tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fairynuff Posted July 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Of course it is nonsense, the 90 day reporting is nonsense, having to give them 5 pp page copies for a 90 day is nonsense, sometimes being asked for copies of ALL your passport pages for an extension is nonsense, drawing maps of where you live and photos with your Mrs outside the house and sitting inside are nonsense, having ALL your hand digits scanned causing enormous queues is nonsense. Expect a lot more nonsense as time goes on! I don’t often talk about all this idiocy to people back home because I know they’d think it was insane. They’d also ask me why I put up with and I’d be too embarrassed to say I don’t know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, cnx355 said: A lot of unnecessary time spent for a form to comply with old rules that were there before computer were used. And most of us know that overstayers, criminals and scammers never report for 90 days or TM 30. They hide from the law. So why they still do it ? Why not use modern computers methods and old leg works on the streets and have officers track them. Only law abiding expats and visitors are doing it ! Issue an ID card from Immigration to all extension holders of 1 years or more. With it, you can open bank account , buy car and get driver licence. This will be your official ID Only change of main address necessary and no 90 Days or TM30 for them. No more crowds at Immigrations offices. Well !I just waked up ! Forget everything I just said, It was a dream. It wasn’t a dream, you are in another country, not Thailand ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fairynuff Posted July 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ubonjoe said: It is within 24 hours of arrival at your residence not in the country. Tell them the traffic was bad and it took you a week to get home from the airport 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Could overtime pay be the incentive for the application of this law. There is mention of a “landlady” being fined, she could be seen as an hotelier I suppose but does anyone have any evidence of a normal citizen being fined at CW for not reporting the presence of a foreigner in their house? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Clearly the queues are too long because there are too many aliens in Thailand, time to tighten some more screws to lessen the load a bit. Edited July 20, 2019 by DougM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeePeeMai Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, DougM said: Clearly the queues are too long because there are too many aliens in Thailand, time to tighten some more screws to lessen the load a bit. Well if we could conduct our business at any Immigration Office (as it used to be from what I hear), it might ease the workload at the busiest offices and increase the workload at the slowest ones. This would sure be more convenient for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Part of it states you're supposed to inform them BEFORE you go out of province for more than 24 hours. Oh my, oh my oh my oh my...... we need a separate thread for that topic ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said: Well if we could conduct our business at any Immigration Office (as it used to be from what I hear), it might ease the workload at the busiest offices and increase the workload at the slowest ones. This would sure be more convenient for me. Or they could just scrap the whole charade, but I guess they have to keep the office workers busy somehow. Edited July 20, 2019 by DougM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post berrec Posted July 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2019 Look, one does not lightly point the finger at a culture, but Thais IMHO could not organize a pi## up at a drunks party. Generally, they just lack logic and common sense in almost every aspect of government, business, education, transport .... I could go on but I won't .....to rectify issues in their country. I don't think it focused on Farangs, CW is just another broken Thai system with archaic practices. Live Free or Die.................... folks don't bother complaining about anything here that seems ineffective and / or inefficient.....it's a battle you can never win............... Just roll with it and accept it..............or get out of the place.............. That said in general I love the Thai people and their cultural outlook on life and just feel that they are being held back by tradition and little us outsiders say or do will currently influence their way of life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I found that too. It only took me a couple of days (less than 5 working days IIRC) to register and get a password using the Section38 app. I had tried a couple of times using the online site and had problems with figuring out what they wanted, especially as everything was in Thai. The app has an option to do everything in English, which makes it a lot easier to navigate.What is the name of the app please - Is it available for an IPhone ?Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, rvaviator said: What is the name of the app please - Is it available for an IPhone ? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app As mentioned in my post, it's called Section38. I know it's available for Android but I don't know if there's an iOS version. I seem to recall someone else saying they couldn't find an Apple version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, rvaviator said: What is the name of the app please - Is it available for an IPhone ? Yes https://itunes.apple.com/th/app/section38/id1451853492?l=th&mt=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Must be murder for the hotel staff and landlords trying to enter the details of all them Chinese namesI don't see why? Chinese passports have their names written in the English alphabet.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 When 'nonsense' has the authority of Law, is it really nonsense anymore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I wonder if you stay overnight in a hospital if they are required to report that to immigration ? The hospital will most likely report you. So you just report when you get home. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Yes https://itunes.apple.com/th/app/section38/id1451853492?l=th&mt=8 Unless you change your Apple ID to Thailand you’ll get a not available notification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaantom Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Chazar said: good luck even getting a password at the moment for their website. 2 days for confirmation of email. 2 more days for password. Edited July 20, 2019 by isaantom Grammar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahoo on Sukhumvit Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I have a Tabiang Baan (yellow),a Thai Driver’s License, a Thai I.D. (Pink) and ALL three contain the Thai address I have had for 12 years. And it is still necessary to do the TM30? Susmarioyusef!!Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Yahoo on Sukhumvit said: I have a Tabiang Baan (yellow),a Thai Driver’s License, a Thai I.D. (Pink) and ALL three contain the Thai address I have had for 12 years. And it is still necessary to do the TM30? Susmarioyusef!! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect And you will still be fined 800 baht, eventually. It's just another farang tax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Leaver said: And you will still be fined 800 baht, eventually. It's just another farang tax. Yes Lever, exactly. I type this from Saigon. Back bkk Monday but then 3 more flights out back before extension mid Oct. Not to mention trip Bang Saen speed festival (members check that out magnificent) Then few other trips. Udon and koh samed just couple. How many damn tm30 am I required. CW is a day trip for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leaver Posted July 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Yes Lever, exactly. I type this from Saigon. Back bkk Monday but then 3 more flights out back before extension mid Oct. Not to mention trip Bang Saen speed festival (members check that out magnificent) Then few other trips. Udon and koh samed just couple. How many damn tm30 am I required. CW is a day trip for me Give it time, they will create "The Elite TM30 Card" which means you can stay at any address you like in Thailand, surprisingly, even your own house, without having to submit a TM30. I estimate the TM30 Card will cost around 100,000 baht a year. ???????? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, genobkk said: If your condo is raided by immigration you will be find, made to phone your landlord and he finned too. The place I stay was raided, many had to pay fine, they where ask for copy of lease, TM30 receipt, pictures taken inside and out side of room. This is why I pretend I’m not home if anyone touches my door lol. Also how is it my fault that emigration system taking 1-2 weeks to make a tm30 and I’m traveling outside Thailand more often than that ????. Law is broken. Honestly I’d rather be deported than pay over some law I didn’t break since I’m giving the data to landlord every time within 24h. 6 weeks ago was in thailand, 5 weeks ago was in Miami,4 weeks ago Thailand, 3 weeks ago poipet, then Thailand again 2 weeks ago, then hk last weekend, then Thailand until Thursday then Siam reap right now, and then coming back to Thailand next week and going to Taiwan next month probably ????. Edited July 20, 2019 by Drax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBKK Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I registered for tm30 online 3 weeks ago, still no password, so I couldn't do the tm30.... I'm now here illegally and it's making me nervous all the time. Once my elite visa expires I'm out of here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBKK Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Thailand makes it easy to come once, then if you want to visit again they start to be really annoying, asking for many documents. Also the constant reports are annoying only if you live at your own place, if you are a tourist the hotels will do the TM30 for you, so it's not a hassle. What Thailand doesn't want are expats, they want tourists that stay at hotels, but they don't want people that stay at the own place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Thailand makes it easy to come once, then if you want to visit again they start to be really annoying, asking for many documents. Also the constant reports are annoying only if you live at your own place, if you are a tourist the hotels will do the TM30 for you, so it's not a hassle. What Thailand doesn't want are expats, they want tourists that stay at hotels, but they don't want people that stay at the own place.Rather an over-reaction. All this "they don't want us" whining is rather pathetic. Do many countries welcome migrants, retirees or long-stay "tourists"? It's a stupid, petty requirement which has always been a law, but is only now being enforced due to pressure from above. Just suck it up or ignore it and pay the fine if you have to. Sent from my SM-A500F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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