FarFlungFalang Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: Free trade in marijuana will do more bad than good, warns academic Does this mean it's going to be free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 hours ago, missoura said: Well, what he has said so far is true. The main damage done by drugs is the police and penal system. 99% of recreational drug users have no problems and function well. The tiny percentage who have problems should be given appropriate help and treatment not punishment. The current laws are archaic and lead to corruption and conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said: Jeeeeezzzz. Can you imagine thousands of Thai driver's on the road after a blunt or a good bong load? Now that's scary! I suppose it depends on wether they are pissed as well.If they are just stoned then one tends to be a bit freaked out by going too quick and drive much slower.It would be interesting to see stats on vehicle accidents after legalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaGuy2019 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Obviously his research on the effects on drug use in other countries that have decriminalised cannabis is based on myths, gossip, demonisation and bullshit put around by scaremongers, hysterics and pharmaceutical companies. So embarrassing to hear the same lame brain reasoning that is still going around. What about alcohol, nicotine , caffeine, I don't think anybody ever died from taking cannabis but the cost of alcohol and nicotine abuse takes up time and money in medical treatment, then there is domestic violence and social violence. The facts go a long way to justify that alcohol should be made illegal. Causes crime... murder need I go on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingjai9 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Is there any reseach do validate Dr. Thira's claims? I thought the notion that marijuana being a gateway drug was discredited long ago. To me his claims appear to be an echoing of prohibitionists' allegations for years. If smoking pot makes people paranoid, it may be just what Thai drivers need to make them more cautious on the road. Is there any truth to the good doctor's claim that for ever dollar the State of Colorado takes in from legalized pot, they spend 4.5 dollars on pot realted problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 hours ago, cocopops said: I thought it was the only point at which he approached something resembling reality. Driving while high seems more or less safe while you're doing it, and I suppose it might be for short trips. But on the other hand pot makes you drowsy, which isn't generally considered good for driving... I agree with you that it's not good for driving, and people using pot should abstain from driving same as the people who drink alcohol. There's just one thing I found that poeple smoking pot are more aware of the dangers on the road than those who intake alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 17 hours ago, Lungstib said: Where has he been living? The same disastrous place he went to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 hours ago, cocopops said: But on the other hand pot makes you drowsy, Only certain strains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunFred Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 What simplistic, wrong-headed thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickstav Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: Does this mean it's going to be free? Calm down FFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickstav Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Thunder26 said: I agree with you that it's not good for driving, and people using pot should abstain from driving same as the people who drink alcohol. There's just one thing I found that poeple smoking pot are more aware of the dangers on the road than those who intake alcohol. When I was back home and heading out on a long drive, say six hours or more, I would smoke a joint before heading out. Put on some good music and I really got into the driving. I didn't suffer any road rage, and didn't get pissed-off if stuck in traffic, drove safely. It actually made the time seem to go by quicker, and voila I was at my destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Bbss. Look at Canada. Nearly 1 year legalized throughout and now 5 years medical use legal. Doom and gloomers said society would fall and first would be massive increase in traffic accidents. Never happened. Police RCMP and politicians were surprised to find no change in accident rates! And tens of thousands helped with medical use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, nickstav said: Calm down FFF I will as soon as I get some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 hours ago, nickstav said: When I was back home and heading out on a long drive, say six hours or more, I would smoke a joint before heading out. Put on some good music and I really got into the driving. I didn't suffer any road rage, and didn't get pissed-off if stuck in traffic, drove safely. It actually made the time seem to go by quicker, and voila I was at my destination. In callie before pot was made legal, med or recreational it was safe to do as you stated. Now, cops aren't only looking for alcohol but also the least sign of pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowisee Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 22 hours ago, nickstav said: I wouldn't go so far as legalizing all drugs, and I've used almost all at one time in my life or another, but all illegal drug use by individuals should be decriminalized! Weed is harmless and should be available freely. I can see some benefits from legalizing all drugs, such as quality control. Sometimes the sh*t the drug is cut with is far more harmful than the drug itself. Emptying the prisons of people who really don't pose a threat to society is another. Even drugs like heroin, although I don't recommend it, could be used with little risk under the proper conditions. But I think some drugs do fry your brain and cause irrevocable damage. Excellent post. At the very least, stop treating drug use as a criminal act. Give users/abusers free unlimited treatment until they either die or recover, it's still cheaper than going the prosecutorial process way. Meth is cruel and evil. Canada's revenue in the first 5.5 months generated 186 million just in tax revenue alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I have spent considerable time attempting to find research, (peer reviewed) to back up the claims made by this man regarding the taxes, also the school dropout rates, but I cannot locate any. I hope that some reputable source of news will challenge him to publish his "research" for peer review, out side of his immediate colleagues , and also his data sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 hours ago, nervona81732 said: Hey Mikey, try it you'll like it.???? If he and people who make the laws/rules did, it would be legal already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Isaanbiker said: Do you really want to tell me that speed, cocaine and other drugs are not addictive? From experience, I'd say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 18 hours ago, cocopops said: I thought it was the only point at which he approached something resembling reality. Driving while high seems more or less safe while you're doing it, and I suppose it might be for short trips. But on the other hand pot makes you drowsy, which isn't generally considered good for driving... Short trips? You mean 50 yards up and down your walled in driveway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue bruce Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I think this idiot of a doctor has watched the 1922 movie REEFER MADNESS too many time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I have spent considerable time attempting to find research, (peer reviewed) to back up the claims made by this man regarding the taxes, also the school dropout rates, but I cannot locate any. I hope that some reputable source of news will challenge him to publish his "research" for peer review, out side of his immediate colleagues , and also his data sources I'm often wondering how people in Thailand in certain positions can simply make such statements with citing their employer with any consequences. Usually it should be approved by the PR department before sprouting such nonsense. I'm saying this because two other prominent professors of the same institution are pro-cannabis. That leads to the assumption that this are his personal views and most likely paid by big pharma but not represent the views of his employer. In western countries this would get him a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 total nonsense b s. same b s for the last 70 years! all the info stated is incorrect. from someone intentionally twisting the facts. was waiting for him to mention about cockroaches ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 total nonsense b s. same b s for the last 70 years! all the info stated is incorrect. from someone intentionally twisting the facts. was waiting for him to mention about cockroaches [emoji846] Cockroaches. What cockroaches? Ahh forget it. Maybe side effect of cannabis consumption [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, CLW said: Cockroaches. What cockroaches? Ahh forget it. Maybe side effect of cannabis consumption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roach_(smoking) 'because it resembles a cockroach': https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/db52495d-496c-4c21-b7f6-741ce1cc2847#By_CkhAzMS.copy and full version: same ole s h i te for the last 70 years. bs wrong info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roach_(smoking) 'because it resembles a cockroach': https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/db52495d-496c-4c21-b7f6-741ce1cc2847#By_CkhAzMS.copy and full version: same ole s h i te for the last 70 years. bs wrong info Got it. Known as filter to me [emoji4].Reminds me to watch Fear and Loathing again. Excellent movie, it's been years I watched it. Still remember the bat scene [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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