geovalin Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Use of Ream naval base would help China’s military project power across a broad swath of Southeast Asia SIHANOUKVILLE, Cambodia—China has signed a secret agreement allowing its armed forces to use a Cambodian navy base near here, as Beijing works to boost its ability to project military power around the globe, according to U.S. and allied officials familiar with the matter. The pact—signed this spring but not disclosed by either side—gives China exclusive rights to part of a Cambodian naval installation on the Gulf of Thailand, not far from a large airport now being constructed by a Chinese company. Some details of the final deal were unclear, the officials said, but an early draft, seen by U.S. officials, would allow China to use the base for 30 years, with automatic renewals every 10 years after that. China would be able to post military personnel, store weapons and berth warships, according to the draft. read more https://www.wsj.com/articles/secret-deal-for-chinese-naval-outpost-in-cambodia-raises-u-s-fears-of-beijings-ambitions-11563732482 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Time for a moratorium and then and outright ban on military bases outside one's home country. It has simply allowed foreign powers to conduct wars without risk to their own country. This has led to wars for political and commercial interests, as opposed to just wars fought over invasions...eg WW2 was a just war by the west; Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan are illegal wars started by the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 7 hours ago, geovalin said: China has signed a secret agreement 7 hours ago, geovalin said: not disclosed by either side It is so secret that nobody knows... How come it is published here?!? ???? Must be TOP secret ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 This secret agreement appears to contravene an unified ASEAN security agreement: https://asean.org/asean-political-security-community/ "the ASEAN Leaders have agreed to establish the ASEAN Political-Security Community (APSC). The APSC shall aim to ensure that countries in the region live at peace with one another and with the world in a just, democratic and harmonious environment." Cambodia may cause the U.S. to pursue its own bases in Thailand and Vietnam to offset the Chinese military buildup in Cambodia. That may force Thailand into a commitment either for U.S. or Chinese military bases whereas in the past the Thai military could play off the two superpowers through diplomacy and trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 The Red army is moving in.... give it a decade & the likes of Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar & Thailand will all be singing Chinas tune! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Pedrogaz said: Time for a moratorium and then and outright ban on military bases outside one's home country. It has simply allowed foreign powers to conduct wars without risk to their own country. This has led to wars for political and commercial interests, as opposed to just wars fought over invasions...eg WW2 was a just war by the west; Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan are illegal wars started by the west. Perhaps a revisit further back in history. It may help reveal more to your exclamation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 China takes over Cambodia. Now trying to take over Thailand. Look at all western currencies—down. Tourists and exports way down. China may have a hand in this with secret purchase of Thai bonds—hot money. Could be a connection. BoT won’t tell who buys the bonds.....very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Excellent news for Cambodia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, JulesMad said: It is so secret that nobody knows... How come it is published here?!? ???? Must be TOP secret ???? USG leaked it—so the world would know what ChiComs up to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78T05929A001300010001-5.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: China takes over Cambodia. Now trying to take over Thailand. Look at all western currencies—down. Tourists and exports way down. China may have a hand in this with secret purchase of Thai bonds—hot money. Could be a connection. BoT won’t tell who buys the bonds.....very strange. China's currency has taken a hit against the baht too, down 13.5% over the last nine months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 This is old news. Everyone was talking about this in Phnom Penh back in November and before. They have built a road from the base that is very heavily over-engineered for trucks/lorries but just happens to be engineered for tank transporters carrying two tanks. (So the scuttle-buck in PP was saying.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Benmart said: Perhaps a revisit further back in history. It may help reveal more to your exclamation. Spot on and if that line of thought is progressed it won't be long before we are back to the Persians again. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Co-located with a casino ? China wants to surround Vietnam so that China can intimidate Vietnam into allowing the Chinese ownership of the South China Sea. Northern portion of Vietnam is a hard nut to crack, pressure from Cambodian border and the sea will be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyngai Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The pen is mightier than the sword. No more invasions with real bombs and cannons. More money flowing and less blood dripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Quotes from Port Technology (2018):- "China and Myanmar have signed a framework agreement to build a new a USD $ 1.3 billion deep-sea Port in the Port of Kyaukpyu in the Bay of Bengal, according to China’s state news agency Xinhua" "Kyaukphyu Special Economic Zone" I presume this is identical to the Sihanoukville Special Economic Zone with its deep-sea port, so there is the possibility of Chinese warships "visiting" Myanmar. Question:- Control of the South China Sea, Gulf of Thailand, Andaman Sea and Bay of Bengal(Indian Ocean)?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 23 hours ago, Pedrogaz said: Time for a moratorium and then and outright ban on military bases outside one's home country. It has simply allowed foreign powers to conduct wars without risk to their own country. This has led to wars for political and commercial interests, as opposed to just wars fought over invasions...eg WW2 was a just war by the west; Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan are illegal wars started by the west. Great proposal, sure to go through the would-be world government we call the UN on the nod. (Then I woke up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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