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UPDATE on Vietnam visa rules:
Rather than having to make a border run every 30 days, as previously announced, tourists will be given the option of reporting to their local immigration office (for a fee of US$10), or of hiring an agent to do so. That would mean, on a 90 day tourist visa, you would report to the local IO twice, and have to cross the border and return with a new visa (or in the case of Americans, with a one-year visa, cross the border and return, three times a year).
See new Eli the Bike Guy video. New Visa Rules discussion occur roughly 12:30- 21:00

 

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Exchange rate is bad, costs are going up, visas are getting a lot harder to get, and more competitive alternatives are arising.   it isn't really surprising stuff. Thailand ain't that cheap

Taxi company I use for my biz was always somewhat arrogant but did the job so stuck with them.   the other week was going away myself, owner was crying how quite it is.    Anyhow a

That´s great news! Maybe the bigger part of all foreign criminalty in Thailand can move to Vietnam too. Then this nice country can go back to what it once was.

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48 minutes ago, Roy Baht said:

Rather than having to make a border run every 30 days, as previously announced, tourists will be given the option of reporting to their local immigration office (for a fee of US$10), or of hiring an agent to do so.

So, not really a big change.  Can remain in Vietnam, on tourists visas, perpetually, for just a few hundred USD a year.  

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2 hours ago, Leaver said:

So, not really a big change.  Can remain in Vietnam, on tourists visas, perpetually, for just a few hundred USD a year.  

Well you still have to do a border run every 90 days.

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5 hours ago, Roy Baht said:

Well you still have to do a border run every 90 days.

You can pay for an extension, but at $220USD, it's cheaper to do a visa run, and catch up with some friends for a night or two. 

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On 1/19/2020 at 3:34 AM, Ron jeremy said:

I phoned the viet embassy yesterday, no changes to the visa after July 1

anyone can still come for 30,60,90 days and not have to leave the country. The change had to do with e- visa or something else.

no difference than what it is now.

maybe in refer. to visa exempt entries. a friend just last week denied boarding on flight to vn as he had used his ve within the last month, ve entry must have 30 day between uses. no back to backs..

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11 minutes ago, IraqRon said:

maybe in refer. to visa exempt entries. a friend just last week denied boarding on flight to vn as he had used his ve within the last month, ve entry must have 30 day between uses. no back to backs..

Why didn't he get a 1 month multiple?  They are cheap? 

 

You can back to back as many tourist visas as you like in Vietnam. 

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10 hours ago, Leaver said:

It appears to be 5am in the morning. 

Maybe I missed a clock somewhere but looks more like sundown than sunset, open shops and restaurants at 5am perhaps not. Don't think he'd get many viewers of his livestream earlier than 5am which he mentioned doing in the morning. Vietnam has been proactive is restricting Chinese tourists so maybe just an indication of a lack of tourists. I'm booked for Hanoi over Songkran so I'm monitoring their situation. 

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On 9/9/2019 at 1:31 PM, Max69xl said:

Ordinary tourists don't have to submit the TM30,and I don't think they read posts here at TVF about the TM30 before visiting Thailand. And hopefully they do comprehend what they're reading,because you obviously don't.

i do. And i do have a problem with immigration. As a tourist im only allowed 2 land border crossings per year. Thats a pain so now i go elsewhere.

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23 hours ago, kinyara said:

Maybe I missed a clock somewhere but looks more like sundown than sunset, open shops and restaurants at 5am perhaps not. Don't think he'd get many viewers of his livestream earlier than 5am which he mentioned doing in the morning. Vietnam has been proactive is restricting Chinese tourists so maybe just an indication of a lack of tourists. I'm booked for Hanoi over Songkran so I'm monitoring their situation. 

To me, sundown and sunset are the same.  Perhaps you meant sunrise.

 

I have watched the clip again.  It could be sunset.

 

From a quick Google, the Immigration Office is at 07 Trần Quý Cáp; Da Nang, This is not near the tourist are, hence, not busy.

 

You can see the percentage increase in tourists to Vietnam here.  Impressive figures, and Danang is one of the popular tourist destinations in Vietnam.

 

http://vietnamtourism.gov.vn/english/index.php/statistic/international

 

The good news in that clip is that Vietnam still remains my Plan B. 

 

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8 hours ago, Leaver said:

To me, sundown and sunset are the same.  Perhaps you meant sunrise.

 

I have watched the clip again.  It could be sunset.

 

From a quick Google, the Immigration Office is at 07 Trần Quý Cáp; Da Nang, This is not near the tourist are, hence, not busy.

 

You can see the percentage increase in tourists to Vietnam here.  Impressive figures, and Danang is one of the popular tourist destinations in Vietnam.

 

http://vietnamtourism.gov.vn/english/index.php/statistic/international

 

The good news in that clip is that Vietnam still remains my Plan B. 

 

Not sure 4.7% growth in high season from a developing low base market as opposed to mature tourist market is particularly impressive. The big increase is in sea arrivals, probably cruise ships passing through for a couple of days. Hope they aren't too badly hit in coming months with the developing crisis. 

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I am currently in Danang and it is quiet apart from 5 or 6000 American sailors who were here for about 4 nights from the Theodore Roosevelt which was moored here.

It's my first time in Danang and it's very nice but it has major building work going on in the beach area - seems very Korean / Chinese / Japanese orientated. Lots of stores full of Korean & Japanese food products but not many tourists anywhere that I can see.

It does not appear to have a big nightlife vibe going on but what little it has suits me. Im back off to Saigon tomorrow but will definitely return to Danang.

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On 3/4/2020 at 8:50 PM, kinyara said:

Not sure 4.7% growth in high season from a developing low base market as opposed to mature tourist market is particularly impressive. The big increase is in sea arrivals, probably cruise ships passing through for a couple of days. Hope they aren't too badly hit in coming months with the developing crisis. 

Where did you get 4.7% growth from?

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9 hours ago, kinyara said:

From the official link that you provided, its there at the top of page. 

You are focusing on this:

 

"Total international arrivals in 2 months 2020 reached 3.236.856 arrivals, up 4,8% over the same period in 2019."

 

These figures are definitely skewed by the corona virus.

 

Look at the percentages in their entirety, including the downturn due to the corona virus. 

 

 

  2/2020
(Arrivals)
Accrued for 2 months of 2020
(Arrivals)
2/2020 vs last month
(%)
2/2020 vs 2/2019
(%)
2 months 2020 vs same period last year
(%)
Total 1.242.731 3.236.856 62,3 78,2 104,8
By means of transportation
1. By air 994.879 2.616.448 61,4 79,2 108,0
2. By sea 54.993 135.085 68,7 179,0 246,1
3. By land 192.859 485.323 65,9 64,0 79,3

 

 

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