webfact Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 EC may seek Court extension for rebuttal of Thanathorn’s media shareholding defence By The Nation The Election Commission may seek an time from the Constitutional Court so that it could prepare a response to the defence argument of Future Forward Party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit, who is standing trial in the Court over his alleged inappropriate holding of media shares during the March election. Itthiporn Boonprakong, chairman of the junta-appointed EC, said the deadline for the EC to submit its argument to the court is Wednesday, and he is not certain whether the election monitoring body would be able to finish drafting their argument in time. If the EC fails to finish by deadline, it will seek an extension, Itthiporn said. The new politician is accused of violating the Constitution by holding shares in the media firm V-Luck Company while running as an MP candidate. Thanathorn has consistently said he transferred the shares to his mother weeks before the MP election was open for applications. Yet, official documents show that Thanathorn’s mother only became a legitimate shareholder of V-Luck after her son had become an MP candidate. On July 8, Thanathorn’s lawyers submitted three boxes full of documents to the Constitutional Court to support his defence. Itthiporn said the EC had no problem gathering evidence and witnesses for drafting their argument but writing the legal argument is taking time. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30373473 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-07-23 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketshrew Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Good. Looks like Thanathorn is showing up the EC for what they are - bunch of incompetents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, webfact said: Itthiporn Boonprakong, chairman of the junta-appointed EC, said the deadline for the EC to submit its argument to the court is Wednesday, and he is not certain whether the election monitoring body would be able to finish drafting their argument in time. Isn't that what they are supposed to do before launching a prosecution? The defendant has come up with some inconvenient facts, so they need more time to come up with an "alternate" interpretation for the courts and their chief fiction writer is somewhat snowed under with other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I thought the NACC has set a standard like they did with the rice case for no extension; not even a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Quote: "...Thanathorn has consistently said he transferred the shares to his mother weeks before the MP election was open for applications. Yet, official documents show that Thanathorn’s mother only became a legitimate shareholder of V-Luck after her son had become an MP candidate." Just curiosity but it would interesting to hear why there is a difference in the dates. And I'm a bit surprised that Thanathon's team haven't already given a public explanation of why it's much later that the records showed his mother to be the shareholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Itthiporn Boonprakong, chairman of the junta-appointed EC, just about states the wanted results and is that from a junta appointed Constitutional Court ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 hours ago, scorecard said: Quote: "...Thanathorn has consistently said he transferred the shares to his mother weeks before the MP election was open for applications. Yet, official documents show that Thanathorn’s mother only became a legitimate shareholder of V-Luck after her son had become an MP candidate." Just curiosity but it would interesting to hear why there is a difference in the dates. And I'm a bit surprised that Thanathon's team haven't already given a public explanation of why it's much later that the records showed his mother to be the shareholder. It has been commented before. The EC based its decision on a document which is updated only once a year in March, independently of when the sale actually occurred. Additionally, the media concern have ceased publication two years ago. But that will not stop the EC or the courts. It's interesting to note that, unlike in other cases, the EC is behaving more like a prosecutor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry343 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The defence must be very good, as the accusers must now make new laws that will help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenm Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The EC has always stated that it was independent of the junta government, but this article states that they were appointed by the junta which we all knew all along.. Always riding on their own rules to appease the general's successful re-election by fudging the EC formula calculations.. And now acting as prosectutor to get rid of Thanathorn and expecting an extension due to their inefficiency and incompetence.. True democracy in the making.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 And they continue to delay the case as long as possible to try to keep him out of parliament and playing his role as a professional opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 This is Thailand, simple transactions cannot be done in 5 mins, so it takes days or weeks to complete any legal formality, hence the delay. The EC were very quick to dismiss the other 30 odd cases, so this case adds further fuel to the EC's corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 hours ago, scorecard said: Quote: "...Thanathorn has consistently said he transferred the shares to his mother weeks before the MP election was open for applications. Yet, official documents show that Thanathorn’s mother only became a legitimate shareholder of V-Luck after her son had become an MP candidate." Just curiosity but it would interesting to hear why there is a difference in the dates. And I'm a bit surprised that Thanathon's team haven't already given a public explanation of why it's much later that the records showed his mother to be the shareholder. It seems pretty simple and straightforward. The dates the shares were transferred are, well, the dates the shares were transferred. Was this before the deadline required or not. But as we know the actual simple facts will have little if anything to do with the diatribes and nonsensical fairy tales weaved around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said: This is Thailand, simple transactions cannot be done in 5 mins, so it takes days or weeks to complete any legal formality, hence the delay. The EC were very quick to dismiss the other 30 odd cases, so this case adds further fuel to the EC's corruption. Not always true, for many companies (not sure about all) property agents, lawyers, accountants can register to do share transfers on line, all days within 1 minute. Five years ago I saw it all happen on screen, log-on and open the right screen enter the new owners details and a bit more info, enter, within a couple of seconds got a print out clearly indicating old owner / new owner of the shares, date and time etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 hours ago, scorecard said: Quote: "...Thanathorn has consistently said he transferred the shares to his mother weeks before the MP election was open for applications. Yet, official documents show that Thanathorn’s mother only became a legitimate shareholder of V-Luck after her son had become an MP candidate." Just curiosity but it would interesting to hear why there is a difference in the dates. And I'm a bit surprised that Thanathon's team haven't already given a public explanation of why it's much later that the records showed his mother to be the shareholder. Possibly the processing time to complete the transfer or even some unscrupulous type in the office held it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Typical case of dual justice system,when those MP's on the Government side were quickly cleared of the same charges. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 hours ago, scorecard said: Not always true, for many companies (not sure about all) property agents, lawyers, accountants can register to do share transfers on line, all days within 1 minute. Five years ago I saw it all happen on screen, log-on and open the right screen enter the new owners details and a bit more info, enter, within a couple of seconds got a print out clearly indicating old owner / new owner of the shares, date and time etc. If it is shares of a public company there would likely be a clearing system that handles transfer of shares online from your broker... for private company shares, that would just be private contracts.... I doubt that is online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdoc Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Does anyone know what happened? I was looking for info as now past the deadline.Sent from my SM-J730F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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