snoop1130 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 China tells U.S. to remove 'black hands' from Hong Kong FILE PHOTO: Anti-extradition demonstrators run from tear gas after a march of to call for democratic reforms, in Hong Kong, China July 21, 2019. REUTERS/Tyrone Siu/File Photo BEIJING (Reuters) - China said on Tuesday that U.S. officials were behind violent chaos in Hong Kong and warned against interference, following a series of protests in the city, including bloody clashes on the weekend. “We can see that U.S. officials are even behind such incidents,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying at a regular press briefing on Tuesday. She was referring to violence related to weeks of protests spearheaded by pro-democracy activists against a bill that would allow people to be extradited from the city to stand trial in courts in mainland China. “So can the officials tell the world what role did they play and what are their aims?” Hua asked. On Sunday, groups of men in white T-shirts, who opposition politicians suspect were linked to Hong Kong criminal gangs, assaulted some pro-democracy protesters, after some protesters had vandalized Beijing’s main office in the city. Hua, asked about criticism of violence by the United States and Hong Kong’s former colonial ruler, Britain, said China would not tolerate any interference. “The U.S. should know one thing, that Hong Kong is China’s Hong Kong, and we do not allow any foreign interference,” she said. “We advise the U.S. to withdraw their black hands.” U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that he believed Chinese President Xi Jinping has acted very responsibly with regard to the protests. The financial hub returned to Chinese rule in 1997 under a “one country, two systems” formula that allows freedoms not enjoyed in the mainland, including freedom to protest and an independent judiciary. But many in Hong Kong resent what they see as Beijing’s creeping control and its refusal to let its residents directly elect their leader. China denies interfering in Hong Kong and has warned that the violent protests over the proposed legislation allowing extraditions to mainland China were an “undisguised challenge” to the formula under which it is ruled. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-23 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 "The Black Hands"...the most feared ninja paramilitary group in the world... Be afraid...be very afraid! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That’s just bizarre on China’s part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Evil Gweilos, in no way could it be fed up Hongkongers, has to be them aliens. Now where have I heard something similar before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: China said on Tuesday that U.S. officials were behind violent chaos in Hong Kong and warned against interference, following a series of protests in the city, including bloody clashes on the weekend. good. is there somewhere i can volunteer to help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Geez, China is getting desperate .... Trump maybe on you about trade but he couldn't care less about democracy and human rights so NO the US has nothing to do with Hong Kong protests. However Trump is a tad jealous of how you hired triads to beat up the protestors last weekend ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tug said: That’s just bizarre on China’s part It's common knowledge and not even denied in these parts. A couple of hundred thousand safety helmets and gas masks didn't come down with the rain. Look up NED and Joshua Wong's award ceremony after the Umbrella protests. They aren't even hiding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 china has had some lessons off Russia , blame everybody but yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Traubert said: It's common knowledge and not even denied in these parts. A couple of hundred thousand safety helmets and gas masks didn't come down with the rain. Look up NED and Joshua Wong's award ceremony after the Umbrella protests. They aren't even hiding it. Because those ill educated and unresourceful Hong Kong locals could never manage that for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Because those ill educated and unresourceful Hong Kong locals could never manage that for themselves. Did you look it up? Obviously not. The fact that there's as many anti-protestors as there are protestors is rarely reported. Even the protest leaders aren't shy about admitting their funding comes from the CI....sorry...the NED. Case in point, where did the Hong Kong Free Press newspaper spring up from? Just about the time that Jack Ma bought the SCMP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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animalmagic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Traubert said: It's common knowledge and not even denied in these parts. A couple of hundred thousand safety helmets and gas masks didn't come down with the rain. Look up NED and Joshua Wong's award ceremony after the Umbrella protests. They aren't even hiding it. I did look up as you suggested and found the attached quote from Sign Of The Times website. Worse than mere foreign backing, Wong and his Demosisto political party work ceaselessly to promote the parting demands made by British colonial administrators as Hong Kong was returned to China in 1997. These demands, including upholding the "one country, two systems" and "Basic Law" drafted just ahead of the British handover of Hong Kong, are echoed by the current governments of both the United States and the United Kingdom. https://www.sott.net/article/330196-What-is-Joshua-Wong-a-US-backed-Hong-Kong-activist-doing-in-Bangkok This is a completely skewed and inaccurate comment as the 'one country, two systems; and Basic Law' were not the parting demands of the British colonial administrators; they were the result of extensive negotiation between China and UK several years before the handover. Both were in place well before the handover and agreed to by both sides before being announced on the world stage. What is wrong with the world asking China to abide by the agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The USA interfere and try to cause political unrest in another country? Get away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that he believed Chinese President Xi Jinping has acted very responsibly with regard to the protests. This sickening liar is now crawling on his fat belly to plead for a trade deal. Any deal, as long as it keeps the bubble inflated on his precious, his stock market. That is why he promised Xi not to criticize the Communist tyrant for the HK crackdown. Anywhere there's a dictator, there's a friend of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland32 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Maybe this will open people’s eyes , what the Future Beholds, Commie CONTROL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, grumbleweed said: The USA interfere and try to cause political unrest in another country? Get away! I hear ya, but I don't think that's the case here. Shocking, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, zydeco said: This sickening liar is now crawling on his fat belly to plead for a trade deal. Any deal, as long as it keeps the bubble inflated on his precious, his stock market. That is why he promised Xi not to criticize the Communist tyrant for the HK crackdown. Anywhere there's a dictator, there's a friend of Trump. He'd throw those HK'ers under the bus in a NY minute. He should be pelted with garbage, the cocksucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Let's see the scorecard. Communist China has built military installations on artificial islands in South China Sea, just off the coast of Phillippines. China has negotiated to build a deep water port and airport for military purposes near Sihanoukville, in the Gulf of Thailand. China has sold submarines and weapons to Thailand. China's Belt & Road Initiative plans a high speed rail connection through the heart of Thailand. Thai Baht is abnormally high--due to overzealous short term bond sales to mysterious foreign sources... Nothing good comes from ChiComs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Traubert said: Did you look it up? Obviously not. The fact that there's as many anti-protestors as there are protestors is rarely reported. Even the protest leaders aren't shy about admitting their funding comes from the CI....sorry...the NED. Case in point, where did the Hong Kong Free Press newspaper spring up from? Just about the time that Jack Ma bought the SCMP? There most certainly is NOT as many Hong Kong anti protestors as there are protesters. That is not even close to being true. A million protestors hit the streets a few weeks ago - anti protestors would be be in the thousands if that. I’ve been living in hkg since 1987 and you are blatantly wrong. The only locals have in common with mainlanders is a common written language. Anything else is as foreign to them as it would be to any other western country. The HKFP has been around for the last 4 years. It is new - but not in he last month new as you are implying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, ncc1701d said: There most certainly is NOT as many Hong Kong anti protestors as there are protesters. That is not even close to being true. A million protestors hit the streets a few weeks ago - anti protestors would be be in the thousands if that. I’ve been living in hkg since 1987 and you are blatantly wrong. The only locals have in common with mainlanders is a common written language. Anything else is as foreign to them as it would be to any other western country. The HKFP has been around for the last 4 years. It is new - but not in he last month new as you are implying. Well, a million as alleged by the protest leaders, 230k as estimated by the police, who you might think are better equipped to estimate. I'm in no way implying that the HKFP is a month old. When did Jack Ma buy the SCMP? December 2015. Around the same time, right? How does that imply what you allege? How did HKFP reach it's crowdfunding target within 48 hours and why was it's target so low? A front is a front whatever colour you paint it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Traubert said: Well, a million as alleged by the protest leaders, 230k as estimated by the police, who you might think are better equipped to estimate. Because it's not as though the police are part of the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oslooskar Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, Puchaiyank said: "The Black Hands"...the most feared ninja paramilitary group in the world... Be afraid...be very afraid! ???? AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Traubert said: Did you look it up? Obviously not. The fact that there's as many anti-protestors as there are protestors is rarely reported. Even the protest leaders aren't shy about admitting their funding comes from the CI....sorry...the NED. Case in point, where did the Hong Kong Free Press newspaper spring up from? Just about the time that Jack Ma bought the SCMP? I'm not fond of the yanks either but the one thing you are overlooking here is the vile philosophy of the CCP. They will murder their own without a second thought so it really doesn't matter who is supporting the Hong Kong people, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Because it's not as though the police are part of the government. The Hong Kong police are not the same as those of old, e.g. when the Brits ruled. Most of them today are hardliners from the mainland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, ncc1701d said: There most certainly is NOT as many Hong Kong anti protestors as there are protesters. That is not even close to being true. A million protestors hit the streets a few weeks ago - anti protestors would be be in the thousands if that. I’ve been living in hkg since 1987 and you are blatantly wrong. The only locals have in common with mainlanders is a common written language. Anything else is as foreign to them as it would be to any other western country. The HKFP has been around for the last 4 years. It is new - but not in he last month new as you are implying. Simplified and Traditional Chinese in the written form is actually different I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Chinese normally call us white Monkeys this is a refreshing change, black hand, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: Let's see the scorecard. Communist China has built military installations on artificial islands in South China Sea, just off the coast of Phillippines. China has negotiated to build a deep water port and airport for military purposes near Sihanoukville, in the Gulf of Thailand. China has sold submarines and weapons to Thailand. China's Belt & Road Initiative plans a high speed rail connection through the heart of Thailand. Thai Baht is abnormally high--due to overzealous short term bond sales to mysterious foreign sources... Nothing good comes from ChiComs. Dude... that’s only one side of the scoreboard, so it’s more of a rant about China (the enemy in the trumps easy to win, war) than an evaluation based on any equivalencies that looking at a “scorecard” suggests.... so even if everything you say is true the totality of the post is dishonest and misleading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, zydeco said: This sickening liar is now crawling on his fat belly to plead for a trade deal. Any deal, as long as it keeps the bubble inflated on his precious, his stock market. That is why he promised Xi not to criticize the Communist tyrant for the HK crackdown. Anywhere there's a dictator, there's a friend of Trump. When all else fails, attack a person's physical appearance. Do some research and you may learn that the stock market belongs to no one person. Your lack of historical perspective blinds you to the fact that many previous world leaders have formed odd relationships to dictators, tyrants and odd-balls. The current US President pales in comparison to previous ones, when it comes to friendships in that area. I am a US citizen. And perhaps you are from Louisiana, based on the "Zydeco" handle? If so, vote next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiRebound Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 judging by the prevalence of skin-whitening products in China, this will get a lot of public support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I am not a friend of the Americans and the CIA had their little dirty hands in too many jars over the last 70 years; starting with the dethronization of Mosaddegh through the Korean, Indochina, Central and South American wars etc. etc. etc. This domestic mess though is quite clearly a purely internal matter of China; they are in the process of breaking a promise they made. It is yet to be seen the ultimate face of the bigwigs in Beijing - they are walking a tight rope but America has, for once, no say and no action in it! See the enclosed clip by Channel 4 on the subject, a most brisant interview leaving absolutely nothing unclear about where China is heading! Britains role in Hong Kong.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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