webfact Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Tobacco giant pushing for a ‘smoke-free’ future By Jintana Panyaarvudh The Nation Gerald Margolis, managing director of Philip Morris Thailand. Leading cigarette importer Philip Morris Trading (Thailand) is calling on the new government and policymakers to start talking with the tobacco industry, so both sides can work on finding constructive solutions to reduce harm caused by smoking. This suggestion came shortly after the government announced its new Cabinet, which the tobacco giant hopes will consider innovative “smoke-free products” for smokers, who otherwise would continue smoking, in its determination to build a smoke-free society. Thailand has banned the import, sale and servicing of e-cigarettes since 2014, with violators facing arrest and a jail sentence. Philip Morris’s smoke-free products could also be included in this banned category. Gerald Margolis, managing director of Philip Morris Thailand, said the company wanted to call on the government to make way for a discussion that is backed by findings about the impact of smoking and encourage policymakers to review scientific evidence indicating that smoke-free products are a safer alternative to cigarettes and could significantly reduce risks once smokers switch completely to e-cigarettes. “With current developments in technology and science, it’s a great opportunity that we could get away from some ideological dialogues that we have had in the past and have more talks about fact and science instead to help create a smoke-free future in Thailand,” said Margolis during a group interview on Monday. Philip Morris International, along with its sister organisation in Thailand, is working to create a smoke-free environment by planning to completely discontinue the production and distribution of combustible cigarettes and replace it with smoke-free products as soon as possible, according to Margolis. Since 2008, Philip Morris has invested more than Bt1.8 trillion to develop smoke-free products or “heat-not-burn” cigarettes that remain well below the point of combustion when lit. Scientific research has found that the primary source of harm from smoking comes from harmful chemicals in the smoke from a burning cigarette, not the nicotine that is consumed. Aerosol from Philip Morris smoke-free product, left and centre, versus tar from smoke from a cigarette, right. Hence, Philip Morris developed smoke-free cigarettes under the idea that if the combustion process is eliminated, then the risks can be reduced. “If you smoke, the best thing to do is to quit. If you don’t smoke you should not start. And of course if you don’t quit, the better alternative will be to switch to better alternatives [that are less harmful],” he said, emphasising the company’s push for a smoke-free future. In the past, the tobacco firm held regular discussions with the Commerce Ministry and Excise Department to share its scientific results and studies on alternative products, but it never held face-to-face meetings with public health agencies. Margolis said moves to cut down on tobacco-related harm and promote smoke-free products was mostly successful in countries where scientific findings were shared with and embraced by public health agencies, and companies like Philip Morris were allowed to share related information with consumers so they could learn about the products and their benefits. For instance, Public Health England launched a campaign telling smokers in the UK that vaping is not as harmful as smoking, while New Zealand government launched a website educating people on e-cigarettes and a campaign encouraging smokers to switch to vaping. During the interview, Margolis also presented independent findings from some international health organisations which found that smoke-free products can significantly reduce health risks. Recently, the US Food and Drug Administration confirmed that the Philip Morris “heat-not-burn” cigarettes were appropriate for the protection of public health and has authorised its sale in the United States. Ban making little difference Margolis said the nearly 11 million smokers in Thailand deserve a legitimate right to access these smoke-free products so we can make every day a “no-smoking day”. He also pointed out that despite strict measures, the number of smokers has hardly changed – in 2015 it was 19.9 per cent, which dropped to just 19.1 per cent in 2017. Under the National Tobacco Control Plan, Thailand aims to reduce the number of smokers to 16.7 per cent within this year. Margolis said he really hopes the new government will review its ban on e-cigarettes and other alternative products, citing new Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul’s progressive election campaign to promote cannabis farming or a “cannabis liberalisation policy”. “It would be very ironic if you can smoke marijuana, but smokers are given no access to other alternatives to cigarettes,” Margolis said. Since 2008, Philip Morris has invested more than Bt1.8 trillion to develop smoke-free products In a move towards lifting a ban on e-cigarettes and legalising it as a “controlled” instead of “banned” substance, the Commerce Ministry’s Department of Foreign Trade late last year tasked the Tobacco Control Research and Knowledge Management Centre with studying legal hurdles affecting the implementation of the ban. Opponents, especially officials from the Public Health Ministry, insist that e-cigarettes remain prohibited, saying the devices are hazardous to health and could encourage young people to start smoking. Margolis, however, defended this by saying cigarette alternatives were specifically designed for adult smokers, adding that the design, flavour and packaging are in no way attractive to youth, non-smokers or even former smokers. Pre- and post-market studies on all of Philip Morris’s alternative cigarettes being sold in 48 countries also found that the youth are not attracted to these products. He said a study conducted by a third party in Japan, where Philip Morris’s smoke-free products can be sold, showed that actual usage of the product by young people was less than 0.1 per cent. “At Philip Morris, we are strongly against young people having access to any tobacco products, be it cigarettes or heat-not-burn cigarettes or e-cigarettes. Because of that, we advocate, obey and usually go beyond the wall in terms of marketing code. And for this new category, it’s no different,” he said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/business/30373496 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-07-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookondee Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Quite ridiculous. I cant see the logic of banning the use of something nearly everywhere, (even making you liable for damages for use in your own residence) and allowing the company shelf space for its products in thousands of 7/11's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 philip morris announces construction of its new vaping plant with govt approval ,vaping legalized and taxed at same rate as fags, previous offenders jailed however will not be released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 mmm.?? run that by me, a huge company, selling cigs, calling for smoke free, environment. they only want to get a bigger foothold in Thailand, every Thai and his dog smokes is my observation , i use to see the workers coming down soi 4 at 9pm, from the factory, those old buses churning more black smoke than a million smokers, ha ha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Smoke and mirrors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 All for the benifit of the people of course ensuring a long healthy life. It amazes me how a tobacco companies can be so benevolent even at the expense of their bottom line to make sure the world's population's good health takes precedent. Or is this wrong thinking on my part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 dangers for self and others, same as alcohol, but kratom & cbd are still illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Wish they would legalize e-cigs. I used them in the UK before I came out here and they were excellent. Over here ended up back on cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 "and then I said 'Smoke free future!' God I love this job. Sure beats selling crack and pimping out whores." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand has banned the import, sale and servicing of e-cigarettes since 2014, with violators facing arrest and a jail sentence. Philip Morris’s smoke-free products could also be included in this banned category. So can we assume that Thailand authorities actually want their citizens who are nicotine addicts (call them what they are) to smoke the nastiest, most vile and filthy products that research shows will eventually cause long-term health problems leading to death and costing the Thai national health services billions of Thai baht a year? Somebody's monopoly has their hooks buried talon-deep into the fabric of Thai government perhaps? Ain't greed a wonderful thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: "and then I said 'Smoke free future!' God I love this job. Sure beats selling crack and pimping out whores." But, if the world's governments got behind selling crack and pimping whores, then Madison Avenue would have it all dressed up and selling awareness and cognition enhancing products that benefit human quality of life and supplying the lonely and disenfranchised with loving companionship at a price. Skyscrapers would house their corporate offices in major urban centers globally, executive and sales staff would wear three-piece Armani silk suits and take home 6 and 7 figure salaries, government official, non-profits, and NGOs would bank philanthropic and campaign contributions, and the world would burn just a little bit brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 There is a new vaping system that uses real tobacco but cost $$ is what this is about maybe??........ The old liquid vapes were cheap.....Very Bad The new vapes are expensive....Very Good..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, mercman24 said: mmm.?? run that by me, a huge company, selling cigs, calling for smoke free, environment. they only want to get a bigger foothold in Thailand, every Thai and his dog smokes is my observation , i use to see the workers coming down soi 4 at 9pm, from the factory, those old buses churning more black smoke than a million smokers, ha ha.. They want to pimp "Clean", "Healthy", "Smoke-Free", "Toxin-Free", nicotine-delivery systems that will addict a whole new generation to a drug that has no other function then to - addict. Nothing but a world full of "good, clean, healthy" addicts who will pour money into their companies for generations on end. <Pan camera view out and back in on athlete completing a grueling Iron-Man competition - drinks a bottle of Brand XYZ Natural Spring Water then takes a lungful of Brand XYZ's "good, clean, healthy" vaporized SmokeLessTM nicotine. Thumbs up! Smiles for the camera!> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, connda said: So can we assume that Thailand authorities actually want their citizens who are nicotine addicts (call them what they are) to smoke the nastiest, most vile and filthy products that research shows will eventually cause long-term health problems leading to death and costing the Thai national health services billions of Thai baht a year? Somebody's monopoly has their hooks buried talon-deep into the fabric of Thai government perhaps? Ain't greed a wonderful thing? No! That couldn't be right or even feasible, the government wouldn't allow it - you know how important life is to the Thai government. That's not counting the road deaths, murders, drugs, etc. because these aren't really important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Nicotine is the addictive component, so Philip Morris does not care what you smoke as long as you keep on smoking... As long as it contains nicotine!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Vaping is not without risk. https://www.nbcnews.com/better/health/better-cigarettes-vaping-comes-its-own-set-health-risks-ncna819716 The habit may be less unhealthy than smoking conventional cigarettes, but it's too early to say. As with many other products - 5G is one of the latest examples - humans are being used as guinea pigs for long-term testing that should have been done before the product's release. We should never be expected to pick up the tab - in the form of damaged health - for an industry's parsimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedub Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 It is good to see rational, informed discussion on the legal situation around vaping in Thailand. "Think of the children" seems to be the final defence of the status quo, an emotive argument often presented in popular culture as an impediment to rationality and common sense: It is time to legislate to allow for less harmful forms of nicotine delivery systems. The potential health benefits, tax revenue and knock on effects on tourist numbers are clear to anyone who has studied the facts. Hopefully Phillip Morris valid and well researched economic and scientific arguments can help sway the misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terek Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 nice to see Phillip Morris is doing intelligent and rational discussion, I hope they employ a lot more professional managers and lobists than dumbheads in Public Health ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 These people can't be trusted. Start Thai research now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhat Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just let us vape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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