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So you agree with me but feel the need to make this about me.
Sorry, no go.


I agree with you that people are gullible, but that gullibility only goes so far.

Not sure how I’m making it about you, I was just asking you a question. If you’re embarrassed to answer don’t, but clearly there are people that believe it.

How about the “golden showers” story, do you believe that as well?

I wonder what percentage of guys enjoy being peed on anyway. If I were making up a story, I would have said he was peeing on the hookers, that’s at least a little more believable given his demeanor...
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3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

But, were votes changed at the booth, did the ruskies hack into the voting system and alter tallies. OR are you saying the US is so simple and stupid that their votes could be swayed by bogus internet stories.

No, I said neither of these things.  Simply stating that there are incidents where false stories shared on the internet have had an observable impact on opinions.  I gave an example, but this is not limited to the US.

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In general historians consider that a mistake made by fdr. But an off topic mention of wwII, and at the same time flaming another poster?


Yeah, a lot of things he did historians consider a mistake but they don’t get much press.

In any event, I believe most everything he did, he did with what he thought was the country’s best interest at heart.
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22 minutes ago, stevenl said:

In general historians consider that a mistake made by fdr. But an off topic mention of wwII, and at the same time flaming another poster?

The poster said another President had never done anything like Trump I was telling him what another President did with aliens that was much worse than anything Trump did.  

 

I think historians will say much of what Trump has done was a mistake.  So?  

 

 The other poster wrote, "I don't remember a president ever telling american citizens, people born here, members of congress, thay if they disagree with him should go back to the countries they or their parents came from??"

 

He said it would be the end of democracy and since it's been 70 years since FDR interned the Japanese that's obviously not the case.  

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, mogandave said:

 


He sets the tone?

How many times and for how long has he been called a dictator, compared to Hitler, called an anti-Semite?

The left sets the tone. How often we here the left applaud when some morons calls him an MF or says F Trump?
 

 

 

Yes. Trump sets the tone and style. If you wish to claim he doesn't get way more exposure than any of his detractors, guess you're willing to claim whatever.

 

And cry me a river. Trump gets harshly criticized for things he does, things he says, and the way he says or does them. You want to claim it's all a "reaction" on Trump's part - enjoy to your fantasy. It's not like he's been a whole lot different before becoming president, though.

 

To be clear, again (since you'll probably try the spin anyway) - I'm not condoning the profanity used, or them over the top comparisons. I thing they detract from the force of the criticism, and instead promote populist notions - which is pretty much what Trump is all about. I do see the President as having more of a responsibility for the current political discourse (or lack of, rather). You're free to disagree.

 

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2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


I’m not claiming anything but that it’s not Trump setting the tone.

I remember President Bush being called a nazi and whatnot by the left years ago, so claiming the tone is a result of Trump’s idiocy I think is a stretch.

The vulgarity has increased, but only because Trump (unlike President Bush, et al...) pushes back. Lefty doesn’t like push-back...

I generally agree with your second paragraph, I think the way he says much of what he says is hideous, but I generally agree with the spirit of what he says. I understand that you don’t.

I don’t think the squad’s race had anything to do with what he said, and the left’s whole racist thing is getting to the cry-wolf point. I think people are starting to see it, at least I hope so.

Funny that at least one of the four had called for Trump’s deportation before he said anything about them....


 

 

 

Yeah, right. Trump only reacts, Trump only pushes back. I doubt you truly believe that.

Spin it however you like - the President gets way more airtime than any other person on this planet. So yes, he does set the tone - even if accepting the notion that he only responds and never initiates.

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17 hours ago, sirineou said:

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"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. "

..."Then come back and show us how it's done"

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34 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


No, it was Republicans that hired Fussion GPS. Hillary and the dems had nothing to do with it.

 

No. The dossier was a Clinton Special

 

The opposition research conducted by Fusion GPS on Donald Trump was in two distinct operations, each with a different client. The first research operation, from October 2015 to May 2016, was domestic research funded by The Washington Free Beacon. The second operation, from April 2016 to December 2016, was funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Only the second operation involved the foreign research that produced the dossier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier

 

It's murky, as is most covert activity.

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Not exonerated... a non event, a non entity, in the world of law in the USA. It's simply the rhetoric of a desperate group of people attacking a man who lawfully won an election. They simply refuse to accept the fact Ms. Clinton played under the same rules as Mr. Trump, and was bested. Hanging on to this imaginary, unfair result will fail them in 15 months time; they better find something based in reality to challenge the incumbent.

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