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24 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

 

Wow, the house voted to increase spending, shocking. So do you give Trump any credit for pushing republicans to vote for it?

Actually, if you follow the news, it was the Senate and House Republicans who pushed Trump to sign it. Not the other way around. He was the potential roadblock.

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3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Actually, if you follow the news, it was the Senate and House Republicans who pushed Trump to sign it. Not the other way around. He was the potential roadblock.

Well that's good news, but I was hoping he would veto it.

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9 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Well that's good news, but I was hoping he would veto it.

Republicans are only principled about deficits when Democrats are in power.

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15 hours ago, mogandave said:
16 hours ago, bristolboy said:

I suppose I could be flattered by the way you echo me rather than saddened by your rather clueless use of my words.

I absolutely did answer him. His assumption seems to be that the House can't do more than one thing at a time. That doing an impeachment will prevent it from getting other things done. I pointed out that this is not only ridiculous but far from the truth. 

 

In addition I guess it's kind of amusing your lack of awareness of the contradictory nature of the posts you make. On the one hand, you say the impeachment is pointless because the Senate will vote it down. But on the other you reproach the House for passing bills the Senate won't take up. The fact is that the Senate is dominated by right wing Republicans. So there's very little chance that the House and Senate can agree on much.

 

And concerning what they can agree on has not been blocked by calls for impeachment. Or did you miss the fact that the Congress just passed a budget  in which it agreed to suspend deficit constraints for 2 years? Do you actually follow the news at all?

 

Well, you catch more flies with sugar than salt, yes?

 

You understood his post differently than I did, when he said (copied from your post): "might be more productive to join forces to address issues facing americans rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" , I took that to mean he felt that pursuing the Mueller investigation was a waste of time, I didn't take it to mean the house could do only one thing at a time, or that if they chose to pursue impeachment, they could do nothing else. 

 

I never said nor meant to imply impeachment was pointless, I only asked why they didn't pursue it.  And the reason is that they will end up looking like a bunch of idiots. Nancy knows this. If they went through with impeachment and the republicans blocked it in the senate, they would own the next election, unless of course a bunch of stuff came out that made them look like morons. Fortunately (unfortunately for them) they would not be able to limit the scope of the testimony, and everything would come out. Even with the press running interference for them and controlling the dialog, it would likely be devastating.

 

If you don't think this is true, then why do you think they don't move ahead with impeachment? Most everyone I know wants to them to move ahead with it, I know I do.

 

Yes, the senate is dominated by right wing republicans in the same way the house is dominated by left wing democrats.

 

Wow, the house voted to increase spending, shocking. So do you give Trump any credit for pushing republicans to vote for it?

 

 

agree; precisely what i meant with that statement

 

some posters are akin to drama queens obsessed with trump and seem to spend their waking hours living and breathing it.

 

trump derangement syndrome may be the minor component compared with tvf derangement syndrome. 

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34 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

 

agree; precisely what i meant with that statement

 

some posters are akin to drama queens obsessed with trump and seem to spend their waking hours living and breathing it.

 

trump derangement syndrome may be the minor component compared with tvf derangement syndrome. 

Here's what you wrote:

"might be more productive to join forces to address issues facing americans rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" 

"rather than" is exclusionary.

I can't be held accountable if what you write doesn't match what you meant. You presented it as a binary choice. One or the other. Your spin is very wobbly.

 

 

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Here's what you wrote:
"might be more productive to join forces to address issues facing americans rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" 
"rather than" is exclusionary.
I can't be held accountable if what you write doesn't match what you meant. You presented it as a binary choice. One or the other. Your spin is very wobbly.
 
 


Yes, but he said “...address issues...”, which is plural, indicating more than one at a time could be addressed, while not wasting all that time on the Mueller debacle, yesh?

In any event, you have this shooting to divert everyone’s attention to now...
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2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


Yes, but he said “...address issues...”, which is plural, indicating more than one at a time could be addressed, while not wasting all that time on the Mueller debacle, yesh?

In any event, you have this shooting to divert everyone’s attention to now...

 

whether it's one issue that could be addressed or several, he made it choice between addressing them or pursuing impeachment. So apparently it's possible to address several issue in his view except if one of those issues is impeachment? Why would that be the case?

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19 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

whether it's one issue that could be addressed or several, he made it choice between addressing them or pursuing impeachment. So apparently it's possible to address several issue in his view except if one of those issues is impeachment? Why would that be the case?

Because (I understand it) thinks the Mueller debacle is a waste of time.

 

Regardless of how many things you can do at once, they all use resources. Doing one less allows you to put more effort into the other things. 

 

We each understand what he wrote differently, I just happened to understand it the way he meant it. It doesn't mean one of us is wrong.

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16 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Because (I understand it) thinks the Mueller debacle is a waste of time.

 

Regardless of how many things you can do at once, they all use resources. Doing one less allows you to put more effort into the other things. 

 

We each understand what he wrote differently, I just happened to understand it the way he meant it. It doesn't mean one of us is wrong.

That's because you're a mind reader and I'm not.

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4 hours ago, bristolboy said:
5 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

agree; precisely what i meant with that statement

 

some posters are akin to drama queens obsessed with trump and seem to spend their waking hours living and breathing it.

 

trump derangement syndrome may be the minor component compared with tvf derangement syndrome. 

Here's what you wrote:

"might be more productive to join forces to address issues facing americans rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" 

"rather than" is exclusionary.

I can't be held accountable if what you write doesn't match what you meant. You presented it as a binary choice. One or the other. Your spin is very wobbly.

 

 

"rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" "

 

is quite clear to a reasonable person to mean dont lose more time nor spend more taxpayer money especially in light of the person learning the most about the mueller report after the day of testimony was rob mueller.

 

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5 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

"rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" "

 

is quite clear to a reasonable person to mean dont lose more time nor spend more taxpayer money especially in light of the person learning the most about the mueller report after the day of testimony was rob mueller.

 

Keep trying to explain away "rather than". Good luck with that.

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Keep trying to explain away "rather than". Good luck with that.


Yes, good luck indeed.

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3 hours ago, bristolboy said:
8 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

"rather than losing more time and taxpayer money due to trump derangement syndrome" "

 

is quite clear to a reasonable person to mean dont lose more time nor spend more taxpayer money especially in light of the person learning the most about the mueller report after the day of testimony was rob mueller.

 

Keep trying to explain away "rather than". Good luck with that.

 

i finally see the light and realize mere mortals cannot compete with your intellect.

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16 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Well you finally got something right. And I did get that wrong. But mine was merely an error of nomenclature, whereas you made repeated errors about the actual process. The other difference between your  and mine is that I admit my errors. Whereas you try to cover yours up with ridiculous excuses or don't acknowledge them at all. 

I always link my posts so people can see the error.  You just make up things and think people believe you - feel free to link any of my errors if no link, it didn't happen.

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