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Virgobythesea

Spear fishing Koh Samui

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Good day everyone,

 

im going to be on Koh samui for a bit and am planning to buy some new or used dive gear and spear gun to do some spear fishing.

 

im looking for any recommendations or even a group of friends to go with. I’m an experienced diver recreationally and professionally as an experienced marine field engineer that worked on many environmental and as-built projects in south Florida and the Bahamas.

 

i know that Barracuda and King Mackeral are popular in the area but I wondering and hoping there are some good spots for grouper and snapper around. Ima assuming I would need a kayak, jet ski or boat to access any location that houses these fish.

 

also I’m curious if Samui and the local area around the island is a protected area or not. I read somewhere that Koh Tao is mostly protected so want to make sure I am following regulations.

 

also does anyone know where I can find fishing/spear fishing regulations for the local area? ie size and limit restrictions(if any).

 

Also willing to pitch in on gas if any of you have your own boat and know some good spots!

 

I am also a decent free diver....

 

thanks in advance!

 

huge bug I got free diving coco cat in the Bahamas a few years back

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Dive gear?  You mean scuba stuff or snorkeling?

From all I have heard from very high level Master Divers and Dive Masters ... using Scuba for spearfishing is against laws everywhere 

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3 minutes ago, Xavnel said:

Dive gear?  You mean scuba stuff or snorkeling?

From all I have heard from very high level Master Divers and Dive Masters ... using Scuba for spearfishing is against laws everywhere 

No it’s not against law everywhere. We use dive gear back home for most every species except in certain areas that fisheries are trying to regulate more strictly due to over fishing. Some places it’s illegal for certain species of fish or sometimes certain areas. It depends on the local law and regulations, which is what I’m trying to find out. I haven’t been able to find local regulations yet.

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18 minutes ago, norfolkandchance said:

Giving the fish a fair chance then.

Yes indeed spearfishing does give a fair chance. Selective targeting keeps unwanted species from being ripped out of the water from depth or injury due to hooks in stomachs. Also reduce the amount of fishing line getting caught on the rocks and reef and is more environmentally friendly compared to drags nets and the local custom fishing practices used by commercial and non commercial fishermen.

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There are size regulations, but difficult to get hold of. Piss of the wrong people and you will get busted, happened to some Frenchies here on Phuket.

 

Personally, if you want to go spearfishing I think it should be done without scuba, snorkeling gear only.

 

You may find BTW that in many areas in the world spearfishing is frowned upon, it seems to be an almost exclusively US pastime. While legal in Thailand it is hardly practiced here.

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10 hours ago, stevenl said:

There are size regulations, but difficult to get hold of. Piss of the wrong people and you will get busted, happened to some Frenchies here on Phuket.

 

Personally, if you want to go spearfishing I think it should be done without scuba, snorkeling gear only.

 

You may find BTW that in many areas in the world spearfishing is frowned upon, it seems to be an almost exclusively US pastime. While legal in Thailand it is hardly practiced here.

I do mostly freedive when shooting shallow or pelagic. Typically only scuba when shooting big grouper deeper then 30m. 

 

I think youre right about getting “busted” my friends that have lived and speared there some time say the rules aren’t really outlined. And that dive shops try to bully certain sites like they own them. I say why can’t we all get along as long as we all respect  the environment, each other and stay safe!

 

thanks for the info Steven. 

 

Maybe someone one can help point us in the right direction to where this difficult to get ahold of info is.

 

By the way I’ve been to a lot of countries spearfishing  and it seems to still be practiced by a lot of people and growing. I would hardly call it a past time. Just a very niche hobby for those that brave it and enjoy. I for one wish they would enforce stricter commercial fishing and instead push them to do spearfishing instead. While it would allow them to more “easily” reach their quota(which they already do) but without the harmful impact of present day commercial fisheries. This has become a real thing in many parts of the US for sometime now and has brought back a lot of fisheries. 

 

By the way I’ve dove a lot in south Florida and Bahamas and I have to admit the reefs there are abundant and growing compared to a lot of places in the world that used to be amazing(of course there are other factors). Just annoying how so 

many people are against spearfishing. 

 

I actually went to school for marine bio and engineering and have had my hand in restoration projects, dredging projects(water quality), coral and sea grass relocation and mapping efforts, built artificial reefs and etc. But yet everyone I’ve ever talked to that doesnt like spearfishing is usually just some recreational diver that likes looking at pretty stuff. everyone I’ve worked with learned from or talked to in the industry is always all about spearfishing and how it can benefit our oceans(if regulated, yes).

 

Sorry( not sorry) for the rant, but people need to become more educated about the these things. There is MUCH worse out there killing our oceans. People shouldn't be so worried about a small group(compared to “fisherman”) of spear-fisherman.

 

Ive also found that the people that don’t like spearfishing in some parts of the world are usually places where dive shops are solely relying on tourists and are worried(because they aren’t knowledgeable) that spearfishing will kill their resident fish like groupers etc. that their greenhorn divers want to see.

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Much of the Samui Archipelago is a National Marine Park where such fishing is probably illegal.

 

Can I ask a question, do you eat what you catch?

 

 

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And that dive shops try to bully certain sites like they own them. I say why can’t we all get along as long as we all respect  the environment, each other and stay safe!

Yes, in general diveshops are not happy when they have divers in the water and spearfishers at the same time. Here on diveboats spearfishing is strictly prohibited.

 

10 hours ago, Basil B said:

Much of the Samui Archipelago is a National Marine Park where such fishing is probably illegal.

Yes, in national marine parks spearfishing is illegal.

 

12 hours ago, Virgobythesea said:

There is MUCH worse out there killing our oceans.

That is not a reason to continue with other bad things.

 

This thread may be of some help,

:Legal info here, https://thethaiger.com/issues-answers/asked/is-spear-fishing-legal

People caught out here, https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/Similan-spearfishing-boat-banned-national-park

From that link " “We have verified that they did not fish in national park waters. However, they are registered as a tour boat, not as a fishing boat – the company was not allowed to support this activity,” ", so be careful who you go out with.

And finally some other examples why you have to be careful,

 

 

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On 7/28/2019 at 11:29 PM, Basil B said:

Much of the Samui Archipelago is a National Marine Park where such fishing is probably illegal.

 

Can I ask a question, do you eat what you catch?

 

 

Yes indeed, that’s solely the only purpose of it...

 

most definitely is illegal if inside a marine park(I would hope so).

 

thanks!

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14 hours ago, stevenl said:

Yes, in general diveshops are not happy when they have divers in the water and spearfishers at the same time. Here on diveboats spearfishing is strictly prohibited.

 

Yes, in national marine parks spearfishing is illegal.

 

That is not a reason to continue with other bad things.

 

This thread may be of some help,

:Legal info here, https://thethaiger.com/issues-answers/asked/is-spear-fishing-legal

People caught out here, https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/Similan-spearfishing-boat-banned-national-park

From that link " “We have verified that they did not fish in national park waters. However, they are registered as a tour boat, not as a fishing boat – the company was not allowed to support this activity,” ", so be careful who you go out with.

And finally some other examples why you have to be careful,

 

 

Spearfishing is not a bad thing for the environment. If that’s the case then we should be talking about if you drive a scooter a car, take airplanes, boats even for an example. What about meat you eat, plastics you use, and energy including electricity.

 

if someone is out shooting fish just to shoot fish and or shooting more than they would eat then I would agree. 

 

But just because someone that doesn't understand how fisheries actually work doesn’t like spearfishing doesn’t make it bad for the environment. 

 

Same as vegans that think everyone else is going to hell haha.

 

thanks for the links!!

 

cheers

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10 hours ago, Virgobythesea said:

Spearfishing is not a bad thing for the environment. If that’s the case then we should be talking about if you drive a scooter a car, take airplanes, boats even for an example. What about meat you eat, plastics you use, and energy including electricity.

 

if someone is out shooting fish just to shoot fish and or shooting more than they would eat then I would agree. 

 

But just because someone that doesn't understand how fisheries actually work doesn’t like spearfishing doesn’t make it bad for the environment. 

 

Same as vegans that think everyone else is going to hell haha.

 

thanks for the links!!

 

cheers

"If that’s the case then we should be talking about if you drive a scooter a car, take airplanes, boats even for an example." Yes, we should, and yes, we are more and more. But still not enough.

 

I am regretting having helped you with your quest, you seem to be set in stone and of the 'if you disagree with me that is because you don't know what you're talking about' attitude.

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You can get busted for picking up a starfish or a piece of dead coral,

and the penalties are pretty harsh,so be very careful.

 

regards worgeordie

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