Bangkok Barry Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Posing and doing a catwalk. Wonder if they woman would do the same at a cathedral in her home country. Some respect for local culture when visiting, it is not hard She probably would, because it does no harm. If anything, she is enhancing the temple with her gracefulness. Unlike the dancing girls in skimpy skirts that dance around on stages set up in temple grounds all over the country. Oh, but that is Thai culture so it's okay. Their indignation has nothing to do with disrespect of Thai culture and everything to do with 'look at what that uncultured foreigner is doing'. The hypocrisy of Thais is breathtaking sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, remorhaz said: Taking pictures like that offends the Buddha but theft, corruption, fraud and outright lies do not. In fact those don't even warrant a top up of the Red Fanta to feed the hornets. Thailand has a different set of priorities to the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, MaksimMislavsky said: ... the source the OP refers to. Filed under 'bloke in a pub' until the original pops up in English. The woman in the photo appears Asian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: She probably would, because it does no harm. If anything, she is enhancing the temple with her gracefulness. Unlike the dancing girls in skimpy skirts that dance around on stages set up in temple grounds all over the country. Oh, but that is Thai culture so it's okay. Their indignation has nothing to do with disrespect of Thai culture and everything to do with 'look at what that uncultured foreigner is doing'. The hypocrisy of Thais is breathtaking sometimes. Never seen stages with skimpy dressed dancers in temple grounds I must visit different temples to some Personally I think it is well [posed and framed picture, but understand the cultural sensitivities involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Posing and doing a catwalk. Wonder if they woman would do the same at a cathedral in her home country. Some respect for local culture when visiting, it is not hard Amen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyen Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Is she doing any harm ? NO !! What about the things Thai people do in temples ? Get drunk, fight, shoot people, steal money, seduce children, beat children and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 As photography is actually very good, in my view, and do not harm the temple, nor Buddhism, rather the opposite as a beautiful composition – I see many other shared photos, that might be more on the edge of the limit – but I'm an alien, so I might view things from a different angle. However, one should of course always respect religious buildings and sites, and not walk on the railings, or sit or walk inappropriate places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 At least she seemed to have taken off her shoes. What's the big belly ache over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said: Never seen stages with skimpy dressed dancers in temple grounds I must visit different temples to some Personally I think it is well [posed and framed picture, but understand the cultural sensitivities involved You obviously have never been to many temples. Round my way they are one a week almost at different temples of course. Some of the dancers are hot good lookers and some are less so depending on how much they paid the entertainment person who supplied the dancers and the sound set up. Of course every body calls it "Thai dancing" and so it is Thais dancing, just happen to be like coyotes. And why do they have them? money of course, a share into the Abbots pocket of course for allowing the booze and food vendors to be in the temple grounds. One near us last week had a particularly nice girl who was picking up many tips and the next village headman picked her up after the music stopped so no doubt a fine time was had at the local short time "resort". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Never seen stages with skimpy dressed dancers in temple grounds I must visit different temples to some Personally I think it is well [posed and framed picture, but understand the cultural sensitivities involved Every large temple in every village stages concerts that sometimes go on all night during whatever festival they happen to be celebrating. These stages often need several lorries to carry all the equipment. There are usually a dozen or more musicians and even more dancers who trounce around in short skirts and garish colours. The band/dancers cost up to 250,000 baht, paid for by collections made around the village. You have to get out more ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 if it was such an inappropriate thing to do why didn't a Thai person, or preferably a monk from the temple, tell the lady at the time? I have been to several temples during holiday times and have seen Thai children innocently playing around outside and don't remember seeing a parent restraining them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, evadgib said: Amen... I saw this, a way to get young people engaged with the church. Not a bad idea. Will it work? Probably not, but no harm done. Same as the girl posing gracefully on a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickthegreek Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I see it as a massive earning opportunity for the cash cow, find all these great photo spots, put on staging and hey presto,perfect photo spot.. What will happen is all this continually petty wining will drive more people away who just actually wanted a nice memory of the monument.. At least you can't drown here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: Every large temple in every village stages concerts that sometimes go on all night during whatever festival they happen to be celebrating. These stages often need several lorries to carry all the equipment. There are usually a dozen or more musicians and even more dancers who trounce around in short skirts and garish colours. The band/dancers cost up to 250,000 baht, paid for by collections made around the village. You have to get out more ???????????? Been out heaps but still not seen skimpily dressed dancers at any of the temples , must go at wrong times thankfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nickthegreek said: I see it as a massive earning opportunity for the cash cow, find all these great photo spots, put on staging and hey presto,perfect photo spot.. What will happen is all this continually petty wining will drive more people away who just actually wanted a nice memory of the monument.. At least you can't drown here Nah its just hypocrital Thais trying to get some attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too young to be old Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Apparently begging safes are acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Too young to be old said: Apparently begging safes are acceptable Absolutely any way of a temple to obtain money is acceptable for Thai Buddhist temples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocker33 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Mickc said: So let me get this right, two tiered pricing and decorating temples with action figures and cartoon characters and you want tourists to treat temples with respect? Now I agree there can be some crude and offensive behavioreven to western standards and that is completely unacceptable. However, given that tourists are treated like cash cows some leniency should be given. You forgot to mention belting out unbearable loud music that can be heard five kilometers away every time they have a supposed ceremony .Respect. Its about time the Thais learnt about respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: Nah its just hypocrital Thais trying to get some attention bingo, and its pathetic and unworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmu Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Mickc said: So let me get this right, two tiered pricing and decorating temples with action figures and cartoon characters and you want tourists to treat temples with respect? Now I agree there can be some crude and offensive behavioreven to western standards and that is completely unacceptable. However, given that tourists are treated like cash cows some leniency should be given. no they shouldnt be given leniency these people act like idiots and your complaints are legitimate they are not the issue here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said: I never said that visitors or ex-pats in Thailand should be able to 'do what they want' or disrespect the culture or laws of the land, you're over-reacting to my reasonable position. I react just because you position is not reasonable. 3 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said: If the person in question was doing anything inflammatory or disrespectful I would feel differently and probably agree with you. That can clearly be seen on your firt sentence. It´s exactly like I say. You are coming here, stating what is disrespectful and what is not. Who gave you that right? They disrespect thai culture and thai traditions as well as budhist customs and behaviour. It´s a disrespectful thing in the eyes of Thai people. What you deem disrespectful has no bearing in the eyes of Thai people. People that comes here should respect the ways och cunstoms set by the people of the country. End of that. If you can´t grasp that, I can only fell sorry for you. The rest of the pure garbage you spoutes out, I am not even going to pretend that I´ve been reading. 3 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said: Just saying 'that's their way if you don't like it leave' is a fair comment in one respect, but it doesn't address any of the points I made whatsoever so is basically a cop-out, and, ultimately, it is to the detriment of Thai society, economy and tourist industry. If think they can live with the knowledge of getting rid of both the people and the money, regarding people that can´t respect their way and culture. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimley Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 My patience has grown very thin with the Thai people over the last few years. The feeling is clearly mutual. They have always had a low tolerance level but nowadays, I find myself having to watch my Ps and Qs more often than not to avoid offending them. Time to move back to Spain where my money is appreciated. Eight more months and I can put it all behind. My (Thai) kids are already taking Spanish lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, nickmondo said: i cant tell you what i think of you and this post mate, i would be banned for life I can hear that was yet another comment from the plentyful brigade that niether understand nor respect the Thai culture and ways of respecting different things. It´s not your country, and you do not decide what is right or wrong. The Thai people have the voice in this country. After that you can think what you want, and I can only feel pitty if you can´t express yourself in a way that wouldn´t ban you for life. Many people would say that is a lack of skills regarding communication. However, I will not do that, and give you another chance to come up with something in return to my post that can contest the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 hours ago, BobBKK said: I agree now stop the Thais talking on their mobiles inside, chatting loudly, taking selfies with Buddha images and we are all square! What's wrong with taking a selfie with a Buddha image? What business is it of yours, anyway? Long term resident? Buddhist? Just dislike Thais? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Too young to be old said: Apparently begging safes are acceptable Why, yes. Yes they are. Why do you object? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 that's a non sense, last week went on trip and visited a temple in Nakon Si Tamarat, I was the only foreigner at that time & day, all Thais and many of the girls were doing exactly the same, eating, drinking and taking selfies, not much different from what the foreigners do, now I regret I didn't take photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Acharn said: Why, yes. Yes they are. Why do you object? I think the point was being made to illustrate the hypocritical and double standards by Thais with respect to Buddhist temples in Thailand, something your own comment appears to reinforce together with your post 84. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mavideol said: that's a non sense, last week went on trip and visited a temple in Nakon Si Tamarat, I was the only foreigner at that time & day, all Thais and many of the girls were doing exactly the same, eating, drinking and taking selfies, not much different from what the foreigners do, now I regret I didn't take photos Then some pompous Thai would have taken a photo, posted it on their Facebook page complaining about you, just to see how many "likes" they could get to boost their own self-important egos, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Too young to be old said: Apparently begging safes are acceptable Alms not begging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said: Been out heaps but still not seen skimpily dressed dancers at any of the temples , must go at wrong times thankfully wrong temples more like ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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