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6 hours ago, yogi100 said:

Girls only go with old men for what they can get out of them. And we all know this as well.

I don't think you need 'old' in that sentence for it to still work.

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I don't think you need 'old' in that sentence for it to still work.

 

But it's only old blokes who get hiked up long term with Thai girls. The girls seek them out because they are the ones who have money. I don't know any young blokes with permanent nor long term Thai girls. The girls know that a relationship with an older falang is guaranteed to be far more lucrative.

 

The girls avoid young falangs because

 

1 They claim the younger fellows don't want to pay them.

2 They are butterflies. ie the young blokes want to to play the field.

3 They don't hang around long enough. They are nearly always Two or Three Week Wonders. Here today gone tomorrow.

 

Years ago in the UK before the welfare system was introduced some young women used to purposefully set their sights on older richer men in order to attain a life on Easy Street.

 

Such a woman was known as an 'old man's darling'. That's exactly the same situation with these much younger Thai women when they tell us old goats how handsome we are.

 

It's retired falangs whose money has paid for all these fancy houses and motor cars you see up in the boondocks belonging to ex bar girls.

 

Once Vietnam gets in on the game it'll be the old boys the girls chase after not the young 'uns.

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6 hours ago, Roy Baht said:

These are all smart phone apps, right? Can anyone tell me how I get a mobile phone or SIM card in Vietnam? Can I get a SIM card that I can just slip into the phone I use in Thailand? Also, I'd heard that mobile phones are hard for foreigners to get in Vietnam--like you need a Vietnamese person to help you buy one? Any truth in that?

You can easily get a VN SIM card at any airport, cheap and easy. They will put it for you and make sure it works. If you are there long term there are plenty of mobile stores that sell SIM cards that you can load up as you like. Never looked to buy a phone, but it doesn't seem to be a problem what from I have heard.

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11 hours ago, ThaiBrian said:

The week I visited Vietnam was unpleasant to say the least. I was almost a victim of a scam. I had trouble getting a grab or 'be' taxi. I also had troubling ordering food. Food choices were very limited. I had a hard time communicating with vendors and locals. The traffic is horrendous and I will never get used to it. The noise pollution is off the charts. The pollution in Hanoi was roughly at 150 on the AQIndex when I was there. I was overcharged a couple of times and I knew they were taking advantage of me. The stares... half the people on every block stared at me, an egregious behavior in my opinion. I just had a really bad experience compared to living here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Pretty much the opposite of everything I listed. 

On the plus side: Education probably wins, cost of living is roughly the same. I've been a member of an expat Hanoi group of quite some time and I see the values. The snack selection far outweighs Thailand as they do trade with Korea and they offer the best snacks. No Visa Headaches. 

 

In 5 years? It's hard to say. Vietnam is starting to look very attractive to investors. Trade deals with Vietnam are well liked. I think a lot more opportunity for advancement will go their way. I will be visiting Vietnam again next month and am not looking forward to it... I know the Taxi drivers are going to take advantage of me at the airport, need to find an alternative option including public transportation. 

Not to pile on, but I have been to Vietnam over 20 times (all over the country) and only once maybe 10 years ago did a taxi try to rip me off from the airport. Only use Mai Linh (Green) or VinaSun (White) taxis, make sure to avoid the copycat look a likes. GRAB has worked well for me the past three years, never had a problem. All my local friends pretty much only use GRAB and similar apps. It's up to you if you want to use it, if not you pay the premium. Heck the taxi situation in Chiang Mai is much worse than anyplace in Vietnam I have been.

Hanoi weather sucks massively in January and February (also July and August) so plan accordingly. There is something called the internet use it. Getting overcharged is pretty endemic worldwide - I've seen tourist in NYC get charged $5 for a hot pretzel, nothing to stop you from walking away. If the price seems fair to me, I have no problem paying it - especially if it's a small amount. 

Maybe you should stay in your comfort zone of Chiang Mai - just saying.

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On 7/31/2019 at 10:41 PM, Genmai said:

Jeez what the heck is this? Old white men are a cancer? As opposed to old black men or old white women? Nothing truthful about your disgusting comment, I think you've gone a bit wonky from the heat.

When a 1000+ posts member writes something like this I really wonder if we have a problem in this community...

"Old white men are a cancer?"

 

That was not what he wrote. He wrote 'seen as a cancer.' Two entirely different observations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

"Old white men are a cancer?"

 

That was not what he wrote. He wrote 'seen as a cancer.' Two entirely different observations. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think this is ENTIRELY different, since the people who see Old White Men as a cancer do think they are cancer.  To me, entirely would be 100% different, and in this case there is a group who think they are a cancer.  Since White Men can't actually be a cancer, in the medical definition, that can't be debated.  So I'm a little lost.....yes, White Men are a cancer and seen as a cancer.  The real question is, What percentage actually believe this to be true?  In Thailand, very very very small percentage.  In Vietnam, I would still think very very small.  

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3 hours ago, phkauf said:

Not to pile on, but I have been to Vietnam over 20 times (all over the country) and only once maybe 10 years ago did a taxi try to rip me off from the airport. Only use Mai Linh (Green) or VinaSun (White) taxis, make sure to avoid the copycat look a likes. GRAB has worked well for me the past three years, never had a problem. All my local friends pretty much only use GRAB and similar apps. It's up to you if you want to use it, if not you pay the premium. Heck the taxi situation in Chiang Mai is much worse than anyplace in Vietnam I have been.

Hanoi weather sucks massively in January and February (also July and August) so plan accordingly. There is something called the internet use it. Getting overcharged is pretty endemic worldwide - I've seen tourist in NYC get charged $5 for a hot pretzel, nothing to stop you from walking away. If the price seems fair to me, I have no problem paying it - especially if it's a small amount. 

Maybe you should stay in your comfort zone of Chiang Mai - just saying.

This isn't my first trip to SE Asia. I only planned on visiting Thailand for 6 months before moving onto another destination. I just so happen to get that South Korean experience in Chiang Mai. I did use the internet... in fact I do know about the copy cats. He may have turned on his meter 1/2 way to my destination but at this point I didn't care, I had a train to catch and the negotiated price was low enough for me not to stress over. Just because you had a good experience doesn't mean everyone else SHOULD have a good experience, that's not how the world works kiddo. Others have had bad experiences here in Chiang Mai, I've had nothing but the best. Who am I to say they are wrong or over-exaggerating? I had a decent experience with both apps in the city of Hanoi. Pay the premium? Using Grab is paying a premium....... I use BE, you should try it. Oh, and I did plan for bad weather. It rained the entire trip from Da Nang to Hanoi, and guess what, I PLANNED FOR IT ON THE INTERWEBz. I packed my umbrella. The Taxi situation at the Chiang Mai Airport is amazing. They charged me less than Grab to take me home. I knew about the Taxi situation in Chiang Mai because I used the internet and did my research.

 

Assumptions are getting so annoying. 

 

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, ThaiBrian said:

He may have turned on his meter 1/2 way to my destination but at this point I didn't care, I had a train to catch and the negotiated price was low enough for me not to stress over.

It's 2.6Km from Da Nang airport to the train station.

I would have walked, less than 30 minutes ........... how tight was your timing?

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On 1/12/2020 at 3:24 AM, Ron jeremy said:

.... Quite simple to get around any language issue in any country in the world. Even for us old guys.

next trip download the app, if you're having trouble, ask a young person to set it up for you.

case solved. ...

Just a quick point; if you are already in the foreign country, don't know the language and need an app, how can you 'ask a young person' to do anything for you?

 

Every foreign adventure is made easier with being able to ask the simple question, "Do you speak English?" You don't need an app.

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11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No need to speak any language, if you have a data SIM and a smartphone with you either use 'Google translate', or just search google for a photo of what you want and point to it.

 

Google translate has now reached the stage where if you point it's camera at any foreign text, it magically replaces the foreign text with English text without even needing to take a photograph.

...and you are within coverage of a mobile phone tower and have a date-enabled subscription. Didn't work for me in Indaw, Myanmar when my 4x4 suddenly went all 2x2 on me and got stuck in a river crossing did it?

 

I am old school and, being spawned when televisions has just been invented, this reliance on 'magical' smart phone and all the invasive stuff that comes with it is only so much brain-deadening overkill. Nobody bloody speaks to anyone or bothers to learn a language anymore. They all bask in this faux all-knowing smugness that only comes from being dependent on google, wiki, FB, YouTube and the like.

 

"How many languages so you speak?"

"Me? I am multilingual... (as long as I have cellphone coverage)."

 

I know, I know. Nomination for the "Bah! Humbug!" post of the day award goes to...

 

PS: I still make my own porridge from scratch. No time for that 'instant oatmeal' dross either. Too runny and seeps oot o' the corners o' ma sporran!

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3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I can speak English, Thai (central and Laos), French, Spanish, and a bit of German.

But I'm betting if I broke down in some Asian tribal hinterland, no language skills I had ever learned would help me speak with the locals. Pointing at the immobile car in the middle of the river, would have probably sorted the problem.

Myanmar has 111 officially recognized regional languages before you start getting into the local dialects. And this is a country where buffaloes are still a farming necessity so there's none to be found in the jungly bits where I was where people walk 15 miles to do their 'shopping' and the largest group observed has consistently been only two people chatting.

 

If you got their attention and pointed at the car, they would probably observe, 'Yup, that's EXACTLY the same spot where that other truck got stuck around this time last year. He waited 3 days for a passing tractor.'

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This just in: New Vietnam visa rule--30-days only?
Looks like Vietnam is getting stricter on visas. Thailand VS Vietnam? Which one will be better in 5yrs? They may end up being much more similar when it comes to long-stay visas
 

 

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On 1/13/2020 at 12:25 PM, BritManToo said:

just search google for a photo of what you want and point to it.

This do present mind boggling possibilities for chatting up girls! Though I think I am gonna get my face slapped a lot.

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