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Minister's speed proposal stuns Thailand: Collision at 120 kmph same as falling 19 stories, says media

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Falling 19 stories is not the same as crashing at 120kph.   In he crash, the pedestrians will significantly soften the impact on your pick up.

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6 hours ago, Worldplus said:

I really wish we could ride motor bikes of 400 CC up on motorways...  Cannot work out why this is not applied..

Possibly because of this? :-

 

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I hope he drives at 120 kph everywhere and then the silly ☆☆☆☆ won't be around very long.

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41 minutes ago, MrMo said:

What is the maximum number of floors you can fall without being killed ?   Once we know that we can workout what the maximum speed limit should be.   My guess that it will be close to the speed Thais go when shuffling around a mall or supermarket.

In that case people have fallen out of planes and not been killed and people have died from falling over whist standing on the ground so take your pick!

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The safest speed to drive is the same speed as everyone else on the road. The most dangerous condition is a relative speed difference between slow moving traffic and fast moving traffic. Absolute speed is surprisingly less of a factor that you might otherwise think, as long as that speed is safe for road conditions. It is dangerous to keep the speed limit at 80 when everyone is driving 120. Some idiot is likely to decide that since the speed limit is 80, that is what he is going to do, safety be damned and forcing everyone to go around him, change lanes and basically just being an obstruction to traffic.

 

Set the limit at an acceptable speed for a road. Not too fast but also not too slow and make sure everyone drives that speed. The whole experiment with 55mph in the USA was a dismal failure. It was originally implemented during the oil crisis of the 70's as an attempt to save fuel, and sold to the public as "55 saves lives". Many studies showed it really did nothing of the sort with regard to safety, it was hugely unpopular, so with the oil crisis ended, the artificial attempt to place the speed limit at an artificially low level was repealed.

 

There is good science behind the idea to raise the limit to 120 kph if that is the speed traffic is already moving.

 

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In my opinion and i'm a foreign! The root cause is just bad driving training and attitude on the roads towards other drivers! I've been in Thailand for several years and I've seen drivers driving towards oncoming traffic numerous times and drivers truly believing because they have the hazard lights flashing gives them the right to drive on the wrong side of the road! When was the last time I've seen this madness ot was today 2 August 2019 in KhumKlao road Bangkok. The major police station in the same road seem to allow this madness! The other issues is drivers using the outside lane on highways and refuse to move! The lane is an overtaking lane and not their lane. A large percentage of Thai drivers do NOT indicate when changing lanes and often "tailgate" mm away from the car in front with their lights flashing lights like a driver processed by a demon, ordering you to move! What the Thai Government and Police really need to do is get tough with these "DRIVERS" and introduce a points system on the driving licence as in the UK without going into too much details 12 points on the licence and you get banned from driving and on occasion ordered to re-sit a driving test , also these drivers should get higher insurance costs. Anyway perhaps that would be a step in the right direction for the utter madness seen on the roads in Thailand! Limit the sppeed on busses, people carriers and Taxis to 55 KPH again maybe an answer. Heavy fines for motorcycle and other drivers in cars, pick-UPS or trucks driving in the wrong direction! on a road no matter how many lanes. Bottom line is thd "Government" and "Police" need to open their eyes, and get tough with these insane drivers on Thai roads. The introduction of a 12 point system on driving licenseing. The new-laws passed now, and not in five years!😣😣

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

In a piece warning Thais about speeding they said that having a collision at 120 kmph was the same as falling to the ground from 19 stories up.

So if you die on an expressway the verdict will be called suicide?

Works for foreigners!

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39 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The solution there would be not to put brick walls in the middle of a highway then....  

 

Of course, the above is a tongue-in-cheek response to your post which seems to take 'speed kills' a little too literally, of course it does, no one would argue that. But highways are for getting places, thus speed limits of 120kmh are not deadly, idiotic driving is.

I realise the tongue in cheekiness of your response but there are many concrete barriers in the middle of highway not only here but around the world and I don't mean across the road but parallel any the difference of hitting these at high speed and low speed is significant,hitting these at 120 kmh is deadly well that's my opinion so we can agree to disagree.What the idiot is suggesting is that when there are 4 lanes to allow 120 kmh.Now as an example I often travel on the road between Yasothon and Ubon Rachathani and it is 4 lanes the whole way but it passes through many villages and small towns and is riddled with U turns and all sorts of conveyances from pedestrians to B double multi trailer trucks with everything in between and throw school crossings into the mix and the atrocious condition of the surface only a completely brainless person would suggest that 120 kmh would be a good idea and I haven't even mentioned the idiotic driving. 

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

Thaivisa notes that in more developed countries

Hey just a minute wise guy! Are you trying to say we're not developed yet or something? 

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24 minutes ago, Monomial said:

There is good science behind the idea to raise the limit to 120 kph if that is the speed traffic is already moving.

This is Thailand,would you care to provide a link to this good science?I suggest you take a drive on some of the four lane roads in Thailand to see the conditions that exist before suggesting that because a few drivers travel at 120 kmh that everybody else might as well.There is absolutely no good science in this suggestion for Thai road conditions and the abilities of most Thai drivers.You are insulting your own intelligence suggesting this.

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7 hours ago, Gumballl said:

And piss poor road construction. What Thai moron decided it was safe to put a U-turn on a highway?

U-Turns probably feature in over 70% of accidents in Thailand.

As a person that has been involved in Motor Sport Safety, slow moving traffic trying to merge into fast moving traffic is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

Only in Thailands case, it already is a disaster.

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Imagine a uk style 12 point system here.

Most locals would lose there license within a week.

Mind you its not like they would stop driving as getting stopped without a licence is only about 200baht and your good to go.

 

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