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Who has had WLS ?

 

either the Sleeve or bypass ?

 

Did u get it done in Thailand?

 

if so what was the approx cost ?

 

How is your life now ?

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33 minutes ago, Farma said:

I've not had the surgery but know 4 people who have. All outside thailand.

 

My daughter initially had the lap band. Her surgeon said 80% of his patients dont get the result they want and have it removed.

 

She and 3 others I know have had parts of their stomach removed. The results are amazing. But may require further surgery to remove excess skin.

 

She lost close to 50kg in under a year and has easily maintained the weight loss. Her bad asthma has nearly ceased since the weight loss too.

 

Initially she felt full after eating an egg. Over time her stomach expanded and she eats small meals now.

 

At one stage early on she had to remind herself to eat. Her surgeon told her part of her stomach that initiates hunger feelings was removed.

 

 

Wow!  tempting... but we do need some reports from folk who have had it done in Thailand.

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A friend had it done in Thailand, Op went well, went from 150kg to 115kg still coming down. He eats small meals, but he said the problem is you can get in the habit of eating small amounts constantly

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On 8/4/2019 at 5:18 PM, scubascuba3 said:

A friend had it done in Thailand, Op went well, went from 150kg to 115kg still coming down. He eats small meals, but he said the problem is you can get in the habit of eating small amounts constantly

I always wonder if your like 150 kg.. it should be easy to lose weight with some changes to diet. I am not saying that this operation does not have its place (i taken risks too and bad stuff to enhance fat loss) but at such high weights its easy to lose at least a bit with lifestyle changes.

 

Still its true that this definitely has its place, but with risks just like everything else. 

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I always wonder if your like 150 kg.. it should be easy to lose weight with some changes to diet. I am not saying that this operation does not have its place (i taken risks too and bad stuff to enhance fat loss) but at such high weights its easy to lose at least a bit with lifestyle changes.
 
Still its true that this definitely has its place, but with risks just like everything else. 
If it was easy they wouldn't have the op
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3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:
48 minutes ago, robblok said:
I always wonder if your like 150 kg.. it should be easy to lose weight with some changes to diet. I am not saying that this operation does not have its place (i taken risks too and bad stuff to enhance fat loss) but at such high weights its easy to lose at least a bit with lifestyle changes.
 
Still its true that this definitely has its place, but with risks just like everything else. 

If it was easy they wouldn't have the op

I never said it was super easy but almost everyone can lose weight if they change their lifestyle. Especially if so much overweight. Lifestyle changes are never easy.

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I had gastric bypass done way back in 2001, not in Thailand.  I was in my 30's.  I went from 150 Kg down to 95 kg over the course of 18 months.  I had other surgeries in Thailand to remove excess skin and fat that wouldn't go away with dieting (you will have lots of this if your morbidly obese more on this later).  

 

Right after the surgery my biggest problem was drinking enough water.  You become obsessed with eating crushed ice to stay hydrated.  You're stomach is literally the size of a small egg so you'll get full instantly but that won't be a problem because you'll never be hungry for awhile.  Long term effect you won't ever throw up again either - not really or rather its different and much less than you're used too.  

 

I've read a lot about what happens to your body chemistry when this is done but most of what I am going to say is my opinion and not proven.  For me it was true your mileage may vary.  When they do this they remove the part of your digestion system that produces ghrelin - this has been called the 'hunger hormone' and without this I not only felt very full but I also felt energized like I needed to go walk or do exercise.  Sleeping 2-3 hours was difficult because my body simply wanted to burn energy and there were several days when I simply pulled an all nighter without any ill effects.  You drop weight fast but it will take 18 months before you are 'back to normal' and feeling hungry again.  Your body rebuilds a portion of the ghrelin hormone producing tissue that was removed although you'll never feel as hungry again even after not eating for awhile.  Starvation would be easier for me now if that's the way I finally go out. 

 

Negatives - there are bunch even though yes I would absolutely do it again.  In the first year when you start eating you will make a 'mistake' and this will be BAD.  What I mean is you will swallow something quickly (like you used too) and this drops into your little stomach and gets stuck.  This brings on a feeling of wanting to vomit ... but you can't.  And this is agonizing.  Saliva will pour from your mouth like you're a rabid dog and you will pray for the sweet release of being able to throw up... buy you can't.  And this will go on for 20 minutes, 30 minutes... longer depending on how bad of a mistake you made.  Basically the saliva needs to wash down your throat and slowly dissolve whatever it is you swallowed and eventually it will slip down into your lower g.i.   Bread I found was the worst and so for a long time I stopped eating it.  This problem doesn't last forever but you are looking at 12 - 18 months of it so be warned.  Can you smartly not make mistakes and doge this bullet?  Sure.  Of course what will trigger it is just doing what you normally used to do and it is very easy to accidentally forget to chew everything up into a fine liquid (which is the only way to prevent this).  

 

If you want other info please PM me as I could go on for pages and I don't want to clog the board.  

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fast for 7 days

 

and you don't need that expensive, dangerous surgery

 

if you do the surgery, you will not be able to eat for a few days anyway

 

and the biggest thing you can swallow will be the seize of an egg

 

and you will get vitamin absorption problems

 

all not worth it

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On 8/4/2019 at 5:18 PM, scubascuba3 said:

A friend had it done in Thailand, Op went well, went from 150kg to 115kg still coming down. He eats small meals, but he said the problem is you can get in the habit of eating small amounts constantly

and that is the problem

 

the continuous influx of food = INSULIN spike = you can not lose weight

 

skip breakfast, try to skip lunch and go to one meal a day

 

than regular fasting for a few days

 

totally FREE

 

and you can still eat whatever, whenever you want

 

 

 

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cut out carbs sugar and beer (switch to light or spirits) and that alone will get a quick 20 k. drop , its the next 20k that requires serious commitment but how hard can it be eating steak and vegetables twice a day?

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4 minutes ago, madmen said:

cut out carbs sugar and beer (switch to light or spirits) and that alone will get a quick 20 k. drop , its the next 20k that requires serious commitment but how hard can it be eating steak and vegetables twice a day?

Yes this is very good advice and works for me, over a year now. Low Carb High Fat, no sugar, change beer to gin and slimline tonic or soda. Intermittent fasting (eat within a 6 hour window, water at other times) 2 or 3 days a week, and mild (walking) exercise every day. Am down 20 Kg from 95 Kg with 5 to go and you are also correct, shifting the last 5 is slow. 

 

Has to be worth a try before the obvious risk of radical surgery.

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I had a gastric sleeve op. I was 164kg and I lost 60kg over 6 months, and have kept the weight off now for more than 4 years. Yes ypu do have to be very careful what you eat for the first few months.

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24 minutes ago, Saltire said:

Yes this is very good advice and works for me, over a year now. Low Carb High Fat, no sugar, change beer to gin and slimline tonic or soda. Intermittent fasting (eat within a 6 hour window, water at other times) 2 or 3 days a week, and mild (walking) exercise every day. Am down 20 Kg from 95 Kg with 5 to go and you are also correct, shifting the last 5 is slow. 

 

Has to be worth a try before the obvious risk of radical surgery.

I agree, I have been trying a low carb diet (keto) and dropped from 104kg to 97kg in 3 weeks, never feel hungry, and it's easy, lots of meat and eggs. I have plenty of energy, and even walked for 20km yesterday. I would try this, rather than surgery 

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What's wrong with the good old clean diet, and a little exercise, I went from 90kg to 75kg in 8 months, no stress, just control and a little effort, and the occasional reward for my efforts. No surgery, no infections and feel that I did something that I always wanted to, I am 59 years of age, and still drink 3 times a week at the social bar 🙂

 

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