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Why are so many expats leaving Thailand?


flyingtlger

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I fell in love with Thailand when I first visited 20 years ago.

In the last 5 years or so, so many changes have occurred including inflation as well as immigration laws that make it very unattractive to live in the Thailand.

Just the other day I went to top off my Rabbit card at a BTS station and they asked for my passport.

I think immigration's and the government is taking it too far....

As much as I love Thailand I think I will be moving on to greener pastures.

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5 minutes ago, flyingtlger said:

In the last 5 years or so, so many changes have occurred including inflation

I've not noticed much in the way of inflation.

What items do you think have gone up?

 

The room I rented 10 years back at 5k/month is still the same price.

Petrol is now 26bht, it was 32bht.

A kilo of bread flour is 32bht, same as it was back then.

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I've not noticed much in the way of inflation.

What items do you think have gone up?

Anything involving alcohol or tobacco.

Most restaurant prices.

Almost all imported individual items, with the exception of commodities which have an internationally fixed price.

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4 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

Anything involving alcohol or tobacco.

Most restaurant prices.

Almost all imported individual items, with the exception of commodities which have an internationally fixed price.

Same as in UK.

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The basic, LOCALLY PRODUCED stuff at meat, fish and vegetable markets has all increased markedly since 2014. This, along with the junta's drive to eradicate street foot, has forced many local, neighborhood restaurants that were making a sustainable living and serving good food to eventually shutter. This exacerbated the already unchecked ability for landlords to rack up rents when they saw a tenant's restaurant business doing well. Coincidental with this manaipulation on how the local people spent their money on food or chose to dine, the 7-eleven's and Family Mart's started offering more and more pre-packaged, pre-processed, Thai-style, microwaveable and basically unhealthy 'TV dinners' that notably are the same price as they ever were.

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2 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

Anything involving alcohol or tobacco.

Most restaurant prices.

Almost all imported individual items, with the exception of commodities which have an internationally fixed price.

Booze and smokes still cost peanuts here, have a look in farangland at the cost of a pack of smokes, UK is around 10 quid whereas here 60bht...

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Expats are leaving due to general disenchantment. There are many reasons and they vary from person to person.

 

Prices are going up and for those who rely on money from home, exchange rates mean you get much less baht than before - you're hit with a double whammy. When you factor in both price increases and exchange rates, for many, costs are up 30%+ in less than 2 years.

 

The attitudes of urban Thais are changing, in my opinion. Where once they pursued sanuk, now they seem more concerned with making money than having fun. (Can't say I blame them but it does make the place that little bit less alluring.)

 

I think there is more awareness of many of the issues that Thailand faces such as very bad pollution in many places and fruit & vegetables with high levels of pesticides.

 

The visa situation has not helped a lot of people who have existed in the margins.

 

But for me, there was another factor. Home has become more cosmopolitan and there is more happening. I can watch my favourite sports - not just on 24 hour sports channels but I can go to the stadium, I can go to the library and borrow the latest novels at no cost, I can get better coffee for half the price, when I walk in to a cafe / restaurant almost every dish appeals to me.....and I could go on and on. It's not just that Thailand changed, it's that I realised the lifestyle I lead means I'd be better off at home in Thailand because like so many foreigners in Thailand, I didn't really live like a Thai at all. I get the feeling more realise they might be better off back home.

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2 minutes ago, transam said:

Booze and smokes still cost peanuts here, have a look in farangland at the cost of a pack of smokes, UK is around 10 quid whereas here 60bht...

Booze, namely locally brewed and bottled beer is comparatively expensive here compared with other countries in the region. It's a state-sanctioned monopoly. Wine is ridiculously high priced, they re-jigged the duties on imported alcohol products that has forced a few importers to either throw in the towel or drastically reduce their range. Lao khao and its variants are dirt cheap.

 

Not a cigarette smoker but I bought a packet of L&M menthol at a 7-eleven for a friend the other day and that was 99 baht. What 'pack of smokes' costs 60 Baht?

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16 minutes ago, flyingtlger said:

I think I will be moving on to greener pastures.

Where are these greener pastures.......and remember the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

regards Worgeordie

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Just now, transam said:

Booze and smokes still cost peanuts here, have a look in farangland at the cost of a pack of smokes, UK is around 10 quid whereas here 60bht...

Tobacco may be more expensive in the UK but most alcohol is cheaper there than here (I'm talking about supermarket prices, NOT bar prices which have a large service element added to them). And in southern Europe those prices are generally much cheaper than in the UK.

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