webfact Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Overstaying English teacher working for 15K a month arrested in north east Thailand Source: INN Immigration chief Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang has announced the arrest of an African national who was on overstay of more than four years in the north east of Thailand. The Cameroonian was teaching English at a private school in Sri Bunreuang in Nong Bua Lamphu province. He was working for 15,000 baht a month and had been there two months. He was named by Naew Na as Mr Njei, 32, but a vinyl board at the press briefing said he was Mr Mjel. It was shown that he entered Thailand on February 13th 2015 and never did anything about extending his right to stay. He was thus on overstay of 1,691 days. Both English and French are national languages of Cameroon, notes Thaivisa. Source: INN -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-08-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HampiK Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I would like to know they found him, because the school reported him, and if not will the school also have to pay a fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 another idiot who likes the limelight, so you catch ONE who is probably teaching your future generation a decent way in life, go and catch some real scumbags. i bet you can go in any bar in Patttaya and catch a few on overstay. get a kin life, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Mr Njei, 32, but a vinyl board at the press briefing said he was Mr Mjel. i think that's Mr Njen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: Both English and French are national languages of Cameroon, notes Thaivisa. Good to see all the relevant information is reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said: Good to see all the relevant information is reported. From Wiki " French and English are official languages, a heritage of Cameroon's colonial past as a colony of both France and the United Kingdom from 1916 to 1960. ... The nation strives toward bilingualism, but in reality very few Cameroonians speak both French and English, and many speak neither. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Be fair the school knew got a teacher on the cheap.knew it may be over soon.so grass him up before they are busted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: From Wiki " French and English are official languages, a heritage of Cameroon's colonial past as a colony of both France and the United Kingdom from 1916 to 1960. ... The nation strives toward bilingualism, but in reality very few Cameroonians speak both French and English, and many speak neither. " Same as Canada and I do speak both language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remorhaz Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Does Thailand need English teachers according to market demand? Yes very much so. Do many Thais qualify to teach English with a high level of proficiency say IELTS score of 8 or 8.5? No. Can foreign born native English speakers help to teach Thai students English? Yes. Does the current government make it easy and financially rewarding for good quality English teachers with relevant backgrounds, advanced degrees, and lots of experience to come and teach? Absolutely not. Is the process to obtain a work permit straight forward and easy to navigate for a foreigner? No. Is it expensive and difficult to stay in compliance? Yes. Does the Thai government protect or assist foreign teachers in dealing with fraudulent schools? No. Will schools that wish to hire foreign teachers help foreigners with the permits required? No. Is the over all salary and pay high enough to attract good quality talent? No, not at all. So adding up all these factors we have a) lots of market demand b) low pay c) expensive and difficult to navigate bureaucracy for permits and d) no assistance with a high percentage of fraud. Adding all these up I can't see why Thailand isn't literally flooded with high quality teachers from abroad eager to help educate. It really is a mystery. Must be bad fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokegreynblues Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said: Be fair the school knew got a teacher on the cheap.knew it may be over soon.so grass him up before they are busted Every school knows the visa status of an employee, employing someone on the wrong status is first an offence, so yes the school should be charged even if they grassed him up. I see a labor violation for the school and immigration violation for the teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: He was named by Naew Na as Mr Njei, 32, but a vinyl board at the press briefing said he was Mr Mjel. Can't argue with the vinyl board.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hayduke said: Can't argue with the vinyl board.... This is hardly news that they print on a bit of pollution. They defy all logic and reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I guess the give away was when all the kids started adding 'you know what I mean like' to every sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just don’t get it, how can a school employ a teacher without doing checks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCurtis Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, manta said: Just don’t get it, how can a school employ a teacher without doing checks? They probably knew about his status @manta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, brokenbone said: Mr Njei, 32, but a vinyl board at the press briefing said he was Mr Mjel. i think that's Mr Njen What is a vinyl board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, manta said: Just don’t get it, how can a school employ a teacher without doing checks? Same question I wondered many times...is it in Thailand enough to speak English as mother tongue to be also a teacher? Does the school not do checks of qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Man Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Christ! Where is Poster Boy? Is he in hidings? Sometimes I wonder if these guys think before reacting or they react before thinking. Instead of going after corrupt officials, no they go after good foreigners trying to help Young Thai children learn English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, remorhaz said: Does Thailand need English teachers according to market demand? Yes very much so. Do many Thais qualify to teach English with a high level of proficiency say IELTS score of 8 or 8.5? No. Can foreign born native English speakers help to teach Thai students English? Yes. Does the current government make it easy and financially rewarding for good quality English teachers with relevant backgrounds, advanced degrees, and lots of experience to come and teach? Absolutely not. Is the process to obtain a work permit straight forward and easy to navigate for a foreigner? No. Is it expensive and difficult to stay in compliance? Yes. Does the Thai government protect or assist foreign teachers in dealing with fraudulent schools? No. Will schools that wish to hire foreign teachers help foreigners with the permits required? No. Is the over all salary and pay high enough to attract good quality talent? No, not at all. So adding up all these factors we have a) lots of market demand b) low pay c) expensive and difficult to navigate bureaucracy for permits and d) no assistance with a high percentage of fraud. Adding all these up I can't see why Thailand isn't literally flooded with high quality teachers from abroad eager to help educate. It really is a mystery. Must be bad fortune. English spoken in Thailand is not phonetic English it's the basterdized version American English. Radio FM 88 is typical American English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 hours ago, mercman24 said: another idiot who likes the limelight, so you catch ONE who is probably teaching your future generation a decent way in life, go and catch some real scumbags. i bet you can go in any bar in Patttaya and catch a few on overstay. get a kin life, Sorry can you explain ? They have caught someone who is breaking the law, but you would prefer them to be catching other people who are breaking the same law ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Joker Man said: Christ! Where is Poster Boy? Is he in hidings? Sometimes I wonder if these guys think before reacting or they react before thinking. Instead of going after corrupt officials, no they go after good foreigners trying to help Young Thai children learn English. Good foreigners don't break the law. Immigration police are paid to go after people who are breaking immigration laws. The clue is in the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, Percy P said: it's the basterdized version American English. Then who is the mother? What a B****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mor Tah Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: From Wiki " French and English are official languages, a heritage of Cameroon's colonial past as a colony of both France and the United Kingdom from 1916 to 1960. ... The nation strives toward bilingualism, but in reality very few Cameroonians speak both French and English, and many speak neither. " Cameroon is a bilingual country where French and English is widely spoken. Your version of wiki is misleading you. Have been there. Amazing country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, yellowboat said: This is hardly news that they print on a bit of pollution. They defy all logic and reasoning. That vinyl board will very soon provide a decorative roof cover for one lucky Somtam seller's trolley. As the sun beats down, the fading image of Mr Njei long after having left Thailand will blend into the scenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, bristolgeoff said: Be fair the school knew got a teacher on the cheap.knew it may be over soon.so grass him up before they are busted Possibly before they paid him a dime too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Tayaout said: Same as Canada and I do speak both language. Hurrah, can you add a photo of yourself..... as HERO of the day? ???????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, DavCurtis said: They probably knew about his status @manta Of course they knew. Cutest thing a new employer asks for is a passport. It ain't rocket science, the directors charge the kids parents a heap, give the teacher peanuts. In these areas all the shool directors, heads of police, govt. depts ask know each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 My boss offered to get me a master's degree from Isarn university for 50,000 baht. It's all about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartiniMan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 If I was in charge I would turn this into a profitable transaction for everyone and build Thailand Making a citadel does not work - people want teachers - teacher wanted to teach - why not make it beneficial for all parties How does it serve anyone to do this kind of action? The employer should be asked to pay some form of penalty and provide passport then the teacher should be stamped in and allowed to help the economy develop - this is an emerging market do not forget How can an emerging market develop when there is a stone in the river? The flow is blocked by detrimental ideologies that serve literally no one - thailand lost because they could have taken money from a obviously very rich educational establishment and the youth lost a teacher This kind of action must be discussed it must be brought to light and it must be known that it is moronic to drive away teachers in a country that badly needs a lot of help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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