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So, I'm on the cusp of buying my next scooter. I've narrowed down my choices to the following 4.

 

   1. Honda Click 150cc

   2. Honda PCX

   3. Yamaha Earox

   4. Yamaha Nmax

 

Of the four, the Earox is the front runner, but in a recent thread, doubts were being cast on Yamaha's build quality and reliability, although no actual evidence was presented.

 

So I'd like to hear from riders of all these scooters letting me have your comments regarding reliability. I already know Honda to be reliable, having ridden a Click for four years, but would like to hear. 

 

Safe riding everyone and have fun.

 

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Agree with Farangwithaplan

I own an Aerox, but I love Honda (cars & bikes).
Don't get the NMax. It has small wheels and a long wheelbase and rides horrible.

I've never ridden a PCX and nor do I want to, but I believe they're a good bike.

Before my Aerox I had 2 Nouvos.

Service by the main dealer every 4,000 kms is cheap and enables them to run forever.

My only disappointment with is Yam's stop-start compared to the Honda. the Honda activates from word Go and cuts the engine after 5 seconds, which is perfect. My Yam needs to wait 10 seconds the first time, and from then on it cuts INSTANTLY when I get to 0k/mh. But I still love it.

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am with you as currently shopping for a new scooter, have had my 125cc Click for the past 4.5 years never had a problem, wife's complaining (ass grown bigger) about lack of seating space when the kids seats with us, went looking for new 150cc Click, nice and still has the same hook on to hold my groceries bag but the Earox it's also nice, appears bigger but has  no hook for my groceries bag, maybe this is not a problem for some but for me it's a consideration (different people have different needs/likes) Honda 150cc is 61K and the Earox R model is (with discount) 69,400.... I don't drive long distances does practicality is the thing here

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Aerox and Nmax have oil problems. Many come through my friend’s shop in need of new pistons. 

 

I would argue that they have better performance, but less reliability than the pcx.

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I've owned both Yamaha and Honda and used as daily rides in Bangkok.

 

I'd say they were of identical build quality and reliability.

 

Both are built to a low price point due to the competitive market, but with so many sold and tested to destruction in Asia they have evolved to be pretty tough.

 

Strong sunlight is the main cause of deterioration, and looking at older bikes in the street I'd say Yamaha plastics are marginally more UV resistant, especially the clear plastic over the speedometer which is a Honda weakness, but if you can park in the shade this is not a critical issue.

 

But the biggest difference between the two brands is ABS.  Honda should be ashamed that the same models sold in other markets have ABS, but they do not offer it in Thailand where the bikes are made.

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16 minutes ago, lust said:

Aerox and Nmax have oil problems. Many come through my friend’s shop in need of new pistons. 

 

I would argue that they have better performance, but less reliability than the pcx.

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9 minutes ago, Farangwithaplan said:

There is more to that story. I'm willing to wager that piston has not ended up in that condition through normal use or with the bike receiving standard servicing.

 

I would suspect that wrong fuel or neglect is the issue here. Especially as in neglect due to lack of oil changes.

 

P. S. When I first scrolled down and saw the top of this picture coming up, I wondered what the heck was emerging! lol.

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Yes that piston is very damaged looks like the rings wore away too !!...no water, no oil seized up then pushed by friends foot on another bike to the shop 50 kms away ?

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42 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

but in a recent thread, doubts were being cast on Yamaha's build quality and reliability, although no actual evidence was presented.

I'm of the opinion that Yamaha build quality is equal to or better than Honda's but build quality is difficult to prove one way or the other. 

 

In Thailand one sees one Nmax for every PCX

In Indonesia it is one PCX for every 10 Nmax.

Aerox is like an Nmax GT .

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34 minutes ago, 2long said:

Don't get the NMax. It has small wheels and a long wheelbase and rides horrible.

Aerox has same wheelbase as NMax just that Aerox has 14 inch wheels. PCX is marginally shorter wheelbase, same size wheels as Nmax

 

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55 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

am with you as currently shopping for a new scooter, have had my 125cc Click for the past 4.5 years never had a problem, wife's complaining (ass grown nigger) about lack of seating space when the kids seats with us, went looking for new 150cc Click, nice and still has the same hook on to hold my groceries bag but the Earox it's also nice, appears bigger but has  no hook for my groceries bag, maybe this is not a problem for some but for me it's a consideration (different people have different needs/likes) Honda 150cc is 61K and the Earox R model is (with discount) 69,400.... I don't drive long distances does practicality is the thing here

Have to agree with you. The Click is a great load lugger. A Big C tote bag fits perfectly into the foot well and I'm always amazed at how much we can lug home. Madam Moon has got it down to a fine art.

 

But we're keeping our Click as the wifeymobile, so we won't loose that facility and I'm free to choose my own bike.

 

Judging from the comments, thus far, for which I thank you all, the Aerox remains the front runner.

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Iv'e own both brands. i can say they are almost at par when it comes to quality. I'm currently using a Honda PCX but won't think twice about buying or changing into a Yamaha. 

 

I have a 12 year old Yamaha 110 cc and it's still running good. 

 

Besides, parts and repairs for small bikes are cheap here. Get the one which features you like best. 

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