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does a digital nomad in thailand need a work permit?

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Simple question, not easy to answer it seems...
Does a digital nomad (no thai company, no thai customers) need a work permit. NB work permit asks for thai company details.

 

if the answer is yes, can they get a work permit?

 

I tried asking thaiembassy.com and got this answer, which I thought was confusing. What is abroad - from who's perspective...?

It seems to contradict itself - technically don't need a permit, but cannot work in Thailand...??

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Technically you do not need a Thai work permit as long as you are not dealing with Thai customers. You can still work abroad BUT not in Thailand. You do it on your computer in your home or hotel.

As for the visa, you need to get a proper visa to stay here based on your purpose. That could be tourism. 

Please know that there is no long term tourist visa. The maximum is 6 months. There is no long term visa for the reason that you just want to stay here. There is no long term visa for digital nomad. 

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Yes.

 

Not sure what was so hard about that.

 

Of course you can work illegally but don't tell anyone about it and don't deal with Thai customers, not sure how they can detect you setting up an Israeli website from your laptop in your bedroom. Common sense prevails as usual. Of course you could say that setting up Hebrew websites is your hobby and you do it for fun and the money you got was money owed from a drinking game years ago. My advice would be not to lie to the authorities but never tell anyone if you are earning money as a digital nomad and certainly never do it in public.

Edited by SteveK

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What is the digital nomad doing? Working (for money). So what he needs? A work permit. But usually they don´t have. 

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2 minutes ago, CNXexpat said:

What is the digital nomad doing? Working (for money). So what he needs? A work permit. But usually they don´t have. 

They never have. Because they cannot get. In Thailand, at least.

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1 minute ago, SteveK said:

They never have. Because they cannot get. In Thailand, at least.

Sometimes they have, if they work in a company. But, as I wrote, usually they don´t have. 

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Actually, most DNs do travel around and over the world, there are quite some who just come for 1-2 months only and join coworking spaces.

Those who live here for the longer term, hate to be called a DN and do not identify themselves as one either.
They are simply freelancers / overseas business owners who can work Online, for customers abroad. 

I can recall that even some hi-so owner of a co-working space in BKK tried to lobby for visa solutions years ago, so far with no progress or results.
Is really a shame actually as many are now in Indonesia and Vietnam instead. It would be of huge value to Thailand, when wanting to get to a 4.0 economy.

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11 hours ago, SteveK said:

If they work for a fully legal company inside Thailand, then I would say that they do not fall under the definition of a digital nomad, rather they are simply an employee sent overseas. Very different.

Well, I am living in Chiang Mai, where are many of digital nomads. Some of them are working for only a couple of months for a company and change after that to a new location. These people I would call digital nomads. But you are right, the people they are working a long time for a company are not (digital) nomads.

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Beware of you who ask. Is Thaiembassy.com an official government office or a private law firm?

 

Further in reality work permits aren't handled at all by embassies, which in fact represent the foreign affairs department of any government. 

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